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Do you dble or not? Defending 3N after partners Weak two

Poll: Do you dble? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you dble?

  1. Pass (17 votes [73.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.91%

  2. Dble (6 votes [26.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.09%

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#1 User is offline   zenko 

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Posted 2010-May-15, 08:13

MPs, all VUL, partner opens 2S 1st seat, they bid Dble-3D(reluctantly alerted as lebenshol, a good hand)-3N

You hold:

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AQ108
J972
A1042

What do you do?
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Posted 2010-May-15, 16:22

Well that was one fun hand, you partner has 6304, AJ10 in spades and KJ in clubs. Your side is cold for 7 clubs (yes seven!), 5 spades, 4 hearts, and 3N.

I doubled, and with flawed defense set them -3, scoring +300. Yes 300, since both opponents conveniently forgot that I doubled, of course director believed them, not us (no surprise there, directors almost never waste an opportunity to rule against me). Oh well, C'est la vie.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 19:51

Usually express C,D,H,S as hand shape for partner.
Is your hand expressed spades, Hearts, diamonds and clubs from top down?

I don't mind minimum relevant detail but it still needs to be clear approx what's in what suit.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 03:14

zenko, on May 15 2010, 11:22 PM, said:

Well that was one fun hand, you partner has 6304, AJ10 in spades and KJ in clubs. Your side is cold for 7 clubs (yes seven!),

I don't think a trump suit missing Qxxxx can ever be said to be "cold" for a grand slam.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 03:37

cloa513, on May 16 2010, 02:51 AM, said:

Usually express C,D,H,S as hand shape for partner.

???
Gordon Rainsford
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Posted 2010-May-16, 16:32

Of course seven clubs is a silly contract, but was indeed cold and actually easy to make on normal line of play since everything was was just perfect, spades were 33 with split honors, clubs Q doubleton onside as well as KJx of hearts, etc.
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Posted 2010-May-17, 02:06

zenko, on May 16 2010, 05:32 PM, said:

... clubs Q doubleton onside as well as KJx of hearts, etc.

kjxx to atxx the queen is always onside!
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Posted 2010-May-17, 10:45

Tomi2, on May 17 2010, 03:06 AM, said:

zenko, on May 16 2010, 05:32 PM, said:

... clubs Q doubleton onside as well as KJx of hearts,  etc.

kjxx to atxx the queen is always onside!

Well usually that is true, but in this case you are lacking entries, especially if there is a diamond lead, so you need to finesse club Q to get back to the hand with established spades.
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