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Muiderberg convention What is 2NT after first passed 2H?

#1 User is offline   VikingMags 

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Posted 2010-May-13, 09:30

1st seat, NONE VUL, MP

2* - (P) - P - (2)
P     - (P) - 2NT?


*5 and a 4+ minor 5-10

Agreements we have:
In direct 2NT is forcing and asking minor/strenght, 3 ask to pass or correct with , 3 invites 4
Direct over 2 interference 3/ own suit, 2NT asking minor, X penalty.

This situation we haven't discussed.
What does 2NT mean?
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Posted 2010-May-13, 09:54

Bid your minor, I think. 2NT is a contract which should not be played under many circumstances.

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Posted 2010-May-13, 09:58

Yes, bid you minor.
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Posted 2010-May-13, 11:29

VikingMags, on May 13 2010, 04:30 PM, said:

What does 2NT mean?

It is a choice between opener's and responder's minor. Usually a 32(63) hand.
Opener should bid his shorter minor with 25(42), if he has enough confidence in partner. :)
3 would have been pass/correct (not making much sense, after 2 was passed).
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Posted 2010-May-13, 11:45

VikingMags, on May 13 2010, 10:30 AM, said:

1st seat, NONE VUL, MP

2* - (P)  - P -  (2)
P     - (P) -  2NT?


*5 and a 4+ minor 5-10

Agreements we have:
In direct 2NT is forcing and asking minor/strenght, 3 ask to pass or correct with , 3 invites 4
Direct over 2 interference 3/ own suit, 2NT asking minor, X penalty.

This situation we haven't discussed.
What does 2NT mean?

Hmmm!!!! Possibly a request to be doubled by the opps? :) Actually the only thing that half way makes sense to me is a hand with 3 and a 4-5 card minor looking for a 9 card fit and playing 3 if no minor fit is found? Obviously assumes some appropriate level of values.
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Posted 2010-May-13, 12:16

Poky, on May 13 2010, 07:29 PM, said:

VikingMags, on May 13 2010, 04:30 PM, said:

What does 2NT mean?

It is a choice between opener's and responder's minor. Usually a 32(63) hand.
Opener should bid his shorter minor with 25(42), if he has enough confidence in partner. :)
3 would have been pass/correct (not making much sense, after 2 was passed).

A good sense of humour might be required. Such an agreement would insta-propel me into a 3-2 fit. :)
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Posted 2010-May-17, 01:58

I'd rather think 2NT just asks the minor, while 3m is showing a suit of his own... KISS
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Posted 2010-May-17, 03:25

VikingMags, on May 13 2010, 10:30 AM, said:

1st seat, NONE VUL, MP

2* - (P)  - P -  (2)
P     - (P) -  2NT?


*5 and a 4+ minor 5-10

Agreements we have:
In direct 2NT is forcing and asking minor/strenght, 3 ask to pass or correct with , 3 invites 4
Direct over 2 interference 3/ own suit, 2NT asking minor, X penalty.

This situation we haven't discussed.
What does 2NT mean?

Partner is acting the same as if 2 was bid in front of him . . . although at a later stage.
So, 2, (2), 2NT = asking for the minor should be the same as:
2, (Pass), Pass, (2)
Pass, (Pass), 2NT = asking for the minor
Partner want to push the opps to the 3-level . . . wants to see if 3m or 3M is the best to do so . . . 2NT is definitely not to play.
If partner would have bid 2NT with the intention to play and make it, he should have rather doubled for a better score.
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