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#1 User is offline   wyman 

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Posted 2010-May-12, 22:33

1♦-2♦ (GF)
3♣-3N
4♣-4♠
5♣-6♦

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Posted 2010-May-12, 22:36

what blame? is it just because diamonds were 3-1 offside?
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Posted 2010-May-12, 22:36

I'd splinter with north and bid 4♣ after 3♠, then pass 5♦
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Posted 2010-May-12, 22:39

georgeac, on May 12 2010, 11:36 PM, said:

what blame? is it just because diamonds were 3-1 offside?

No, diamonds were well-behaved. Unfortunately, ♣QJ weren't tight.
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Posted 2010-May-12, 22:50

clear to play for stiff nine in East :)

Not familiar with GF inverted --only L+, but I guess in the style 3D by north to show a weak unbalanced opener doesn't apply, or it might have been used.
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Posted 2010-May-12, 23:18

I blame 4♣.

South has already tried to sign-off in 3NT so 4♣ seems like a very serious slam try now. It seems hard to stop south who has some extras even if very bad shape.

If north does not want to play in 3NT then 5♦ not 3♣ seems like the best move. 4♣ or 4♦ should be stronger bids.
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Posted 2010-May-13, 00:36

There are other points to the auction (most notably north should splinter in hearts IMO, in general try hard to splinter in an inverted minor auction), but I think the biggest problem is that south did not realize how bad Txx of clubs is opposite club length.
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Posted 2010-May-15, 08:08

I blame south, the auction seems fine until the end. South has already made a slam try and has an awful club holding, not to mention I always feel cuebids can be made liberally below game but to go beyond game you really need to mean it.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 23:17

hahaha north
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Posted 2010-May-17, 10:34

Over 2D, 2M shows a stopper. South felt north distorted his hand by not bidding 2S. When south placed (opening+, after the slam try) values with north, he felt they had to be in the minors, since (after 5C) north has heart shortness. With at most QJ of diamonds, south figured north had at least ♣AKJ (and probably ♣AKQ).

I'm not sure if south is right. South contends that with a hand that will bypass showing stoppers, north has to splinter (or bid 3N or 4D minorwood or...).

North argued that Qs --> Qc and 6D is cold, and on a non-heart lead 6D is cold, and passing up the 5C cuebid seemed like giving up too soon.

In the post-mortem, comments from outsiders were:
"South didn't realize how bad his clubs were" and
"At some point, the 11-count needs to stop cuebidding"

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"I think maybe so and so was caught cheating but maybe I don't have the names right". Sure, and I think maybe your mother .... Oh yeah, that was someone else maybe. -- kenberg

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