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6S based on idea by Paul Lucaks

#1 User is offline   Trumpace 

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Posted 2010-May-12, 15:28

I have tried to construct a hand which is similar to a hand devised by Paul Lucaks. So any goofs are mine.

You are South in a small slam in spades.

LHO leads the Heart Jack and you see:

Scoring: Rubber

Lead Heart J.


You win the heart Q in hand and play the Spade A, to which RHO discards.

Plan the play.

Adv/+ please don't spoil it too early.
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Posted 2010-May-13, 09:43

I would try this:

Spoiler

and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-May-13, 11:50

Perhaps I should have stated some specific time period when I said 'early' :).

I hope people still try this and not just read Han's post right away (which has the right line).
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Posted 2010-May-13, 13:12

I saw it was posted yesterday and nobody reacted. The hand deserved a reaction.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-May-13, 13:40

hanp, on May 13 2010, 02:12 PM, said:

I saw it was posted yesterday and nobody reacted. The hand deserved a reaction.

I agree and thank you for that.

But since this is B/I forum, IMO, we should avoid posting complete solutions (hidden or not) till there has been at least one attempt at a solution (or too many days go by).
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Posted 2010-May-14, 07:53

It's ok Trumpace. I've wasted the last half hour of my life on the problem, so at least you know someone's trying it. I haven't given up just because han posted an answer, and I haven't read his post yet.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
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Posted 2010-May-14, 08:10

Here's what I have.

Spoiler

Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
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Posted 2010-May-14, 08:15

Nice hand, thanks for posting it. I hope you don't, however, mind if I mention that you have ridiculous standards for 'spoiling'. If a BIL player wants to solve it, he solves it, if not, he selects hanp's post and he hopefully learns something.
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Posted 2010-May-14, 08:21

Trumpace,

Nice problem.

I have not given it much thought so I might be way way off! (Maybe I should have peeked at Han's solution :P) That said, I think I would :

Draw 3 rounds of trumps.

Play off the hearts and on the third heart, discard a diamond.

Cash the Ace of diamonds and keep Qx in dummy.

Then lead a low club to the 10 or the Queen.

If it loses and a heart is returned - I have a spade in dummy to ruff and toss a club from hand.

If it loses and they kindly return Diamond king - I am through since the queen is good for a club discard.

If a low diamond is returned, I put up the queen and hope it is not covered. If it is covered, back to dummy via the spade to try another club finesse.

Ofcourse I am down if all three cards (K of Dia, K and J of clubs) are in the wrong position, but can see no way out of that.

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Posted 2010-May-14, 09:40

Good problem and very appropriate for this section.

Over the years some masochist will post a hand here and get a "I don't think this is easy at all".
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Posted 2010-May-14, 10:16

gwnn, on May 14 2010, 09:15 AM, said:

Nice hand, thanks for posting it. I hope you don't, however, mind if I mention that you have ridiculous standards for 'spoiling'. If a BIL player wants to solve it, he solves it, if not, he selects hanp's post and he hopefully learns something.

I think we had a discussion about this earlier, if only I could find the thread :)

My main concern was that it had not even been 18 hours since the hand was posted when han posted the solution and most of that was sleeping time for most readers I believe.

Anyway, I understand that hanp did it to generate more interest in the hand and it worked!

About posting solutions too quickly, I don't agree it is ok to post a complete solution which is hidden. Not knowing the difficulty of the solution, people might give up too quickly and look, or maybe get a peek accidentaly (high contrast settings/text to speech) etc. This is a discussion for a different thread I suppose.
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