[inquiry]

whereagles, on Jul 27 2004, 09:18 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Jul 27 2004, 01:35 PM, said:

"If the club king is offside, small club to the jack at trick 2 should do it "

Great line! Lose a C, 2D and a H.
Free's line is sensible.

What's this? Didn't you read my 2nd post?

This also will address Free's comment to me about what he suggested in his last post. I don't know about Ron, but I open a window, read the post, and then start a reply. It might take me an hour or two to finish.. not that I write that much, but I am multitasking. I leave the window open and come back to it.

When I started my reply to this thread, the last on in it was the colorful one by Chamaco were ge gave us his odds. So I hadn't read the following post when my was made... reply #11 by free, #12 by Flame, #13 by Chamaco, #14 by Flame, #15 by Chamaco, #16 by The_hog.

I suspect the same applies to Ron. And in fact, I also missed earlier one in this thread. I read it this moring before leaving home, and clicked on Chamaco's reply (being new post since logged on) when I started up again. So I missed a few in between, including Free's second one.

So a lot of time, people will respond to one comment without seeing the other. IT is the nature of the forum system. Try not to take it too seriously. :-)

Ben

[paulhar]

If I were at the table, I probably would have chosen Ben's second line - lead a diamond off dummy and hope the opponents do something good for me. I'd like to think I would have led the H10 off dummy, but there's a good reason there's no 'expert' on my profile

Your 2C bid brings up another tactical possiblility. This might actually be preferable! Spade to the ace and run the jack of clubs, giving the opponents two chances to mess up. (Actually, winning trick 1 with the queen of hearts, not playing an honor from dummy, enhances the chances here. No signal in spades.) First, RHO might duck the jack of clubs, trying to make life difficult, or hoping to give partner a club ruff later. Second, if RHO has king fourth of clubs, he will win and try to give partner a club ruff. This would clearly be a good development for your side as diamonds could go on clubs instead of on spades, making dimaond ruffs in dummy necessary. Thirdly, while it's unlikely that RHO will win and return a trump, he might win and play a spade from a doubleton hoping to keep diamonds open as entries for the defenders.

To answer Chamaco's question, I love this last line if the club King is offside. The diamond play might prompt good defenders to ask themselves why declarer isn't playing trump or clubs and possibly come up with the right answer. This last line is more difficult to defend because running the club jack early might be a reasonable thing to do.

[Cascade]

Chamaco, on Jul 27 2004, 09:36 PM, said:

Cascade, on Jul 27 2004, 08:48 AM, said:

You cannot ruff the second diamond if when you lose the lead in diamonds they play a trump at you.

After trump lead wo by the J and cashing trump ace at second round, if trumps are 3-2 , no trump can be led after ruffing a spade.
If trumps are 4-1, then another story

I am getting lost here. Who is ruffing a spade.

After two rounds of trumps the ♥K is likely to be out.

Now you play four spades ditching a diamond.

Then you lose the lead in diamonds and they are likely to be able to draw dummy's last trump.

Have I missed something?

[Cascade]

Free, on Jul 27 2004, 09:54 PM, said:

whereagles, on Jul 27 2004, 10:17 AM, said:

If the club king is offside, small club to the jack at trick 2 should do it 

Then you better play ♣A first, followed by small ♣. They won't dare to play ♣K, they're afraid of the Queen

I count signal from East will thwart this plan.

[Chamaco]

Cascade, on Jul 28 2004, 12:24 AM, said:

I am getting lost here. Who is ruffing a spade.

Have I missed something?

Of course not, I did , as it is was explained to me in the other posts

[Fluffy]

You cannot calculate the % of winning without considering the ♣K position:

The bidding suggests dummy has alimit hand with either many ♣ or ♣ shortness, therefore risking a low trump lead with ♥K is likelly to be made ONLY when holding long ♣ headed with a honnor : ♣K, so the odds favour that both Ks are at the same place.

[Cascade]

Chamaco, on Jul 27 2004, 07:53 PM, said:

What is the best percentage play to guarantee the contract if club K is offside?

It didn't come out in the thread as far as I know.

How do we know the ♣K is offside?