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Clubs or no clubs?

#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2010-April-30, 02:32

MP's, All green.
 
1NT-(2D!)-2NT!-(3♥)
Pass-(Pass)-4♣-(Pass)
4♠?
 
Matchpoints!! (weak field)
1NT=15-17 but can contain singleton, 6c minor, 5c major, can be 14 pts
2♦= DONT (♦ and ♥or♠)
2NT=Rubensohl, transfer ♣
3♥=I didn't ask, but probably this is tolerance for ♥ and ♠???
4♣=Clubs. No idea if it is weak, strong...Probably not too strong because partner would have bid 5♣ then.
What is 4♠ when playing MP's:
- singleton ♣ and hoping to improve the contract?
- Good clubs and giving a choice between 4♠/5♣?
- Impossible bid, partner did bid 4♣ and can be very weak with long clubs. Why run from the best contract?
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Posted 2010-April-30, 02:45

I guess 5♠332
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Posted 2010-April-30, 08:50

prime hand, 5♠, decent ♣ support, cog
OK
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Posted 2010-April-30, 09:48

Agree with jjbrr but most likely partner is being dumb.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-April-30, 10:06

I vote for "dumb". By the way, I have had bad results using leben to sign off at the 3-level, then balancing at the 4-level. Maybe I should wait for a seventh club in my weak hand to do it.
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Posted 2010-April-30, 11:34

hanp, on Apr 30 2010, 10:48 AM, said:

Agree with jjbrr but most likely partner is being dumb.

haha so true
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Posted 2010-April-30, 11:51

4C was to play so opener is not looking to improve the contract with a singleton, he is looking for game (but why...???). Perhaps he has the perfect cards for 5C unless responder is willing to settle in 4S opposite five card suit with opener.
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Posted 2010-April-30, 12:47

Hi,

4C is forcing, if it is to play, I need a serious discussion with p,
hence 4S is showing a control, denying a diamond and heart
control and club support.
Just because p passed over 3H, does not mean he has no club
support, 2NT could contain a hand, that just wanted to play 3C.

So to answer your question - it is neither of the options you listed.

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Posted 2010-April-30, 12:58

I suspect opener is mistakenly willing to play 4♠ or 5♣.

3♥ over 2NT should mean, "I don't care about your suits; I want to play in hearts." Doubling 2NT asks partner to compete in his second suit.
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Posted 2010-May-03, 11:10

Lobowolf, on Apr 30 2010, 08:58 PM, said:

I suspect opener is mistakenly willing to play 4♠ or 5♣.

Yes, we had something like:

both 4♠ and 5♣ would go -1
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Posted 2010-May-03, 13:43

Gerber response.
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