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Was the contract given away or not? Lead

Poll: Did the club lead give away the contract? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Did the club lead give away the contract?

  1. Yes (19 votes [95.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 95.00%

  2. No (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

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#1 User is offline   Helmer 

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  Posted 2010-April-27, 09:47

Scoring: MP


East bid
South bid
West bid

Contract 5

Lead: Queen.

After the board my partner was so happy about his -lead, and that he didn't lead my suit ( ).
Furthermore he thought it was so brilliant that when he got tricks in spade, end-played declarer - so that I suddenly got 2 tricks.

I told him that there was absolutely nothing to be happy about - his lead, actually gave away the contract, but as declarer didn't un-blok his 10 - he was unable to finess my partner - and then discard a spade, on a high .

That declarer - twice in dummies hand - not playing a towards the declaring hand, is his mistake not our braveness.

Am I right or totally wrong, when I say that the lead gave away the contract, if we had had a reasonable good declarer?

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Posted 2010-April-27, 10:06

How did he end-play declarer?

Anyway, a heart lead should work better than a club lead (other than a deceptive J maybe :angry: ), since Q may make declarer think that the club finesse is more likely than the spade finesse.
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Posted 2010-April-27, 10:45

You're right.
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Posted 2010-April-27, 12:56

If the order of the bidding is to be believed, E opened some number of , S bid at a level necessarily higher than E bid, and then they got to 5. The fact that you had to bid at the 2 level and it seems likely the 3-level suggests that there is no reason partner shouldn't lead a .

A lead could certainly work and its not hard to come up with hands where a is right, but on this particular hand, yes, partner gave the contract away with his lead.

But go easy on him, leads impossibly difficult to get right all the time.
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Posted 2010-April-27, 13:11

I'm still hung up on East opening some number of spades
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Posted 2010-April-27, 15:44

mikegill, on Apr 27 2010, 12:11 PM, said:

I'm still hung up on East opening some number of spades

Maybe a 1st favorable 2 showing 5 and a 4+ card minor?
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Posted 2010-April-27, 15:49

Who said east opened spades? It coulda been p 3H 4D p 4S p 5D (yes 3N is a much better bid, but presumably no one bid 3N since they ended in 5D).
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Posted 2010-April-27, 15:59

We were given the auction

East bid ♠
South bid ♥
West bid ♦

And while I agree with your point that they aren't necessarily in order, generally that's how people present auctions to others.
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Posted 2010-April-28, 03:07

mikegill, on Apr 27 2010, 08:11 PM, said:

I'm still hung up on East opening some number of spades

In certain bits of Europe it would be a routine 2S opener.
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Posted 2010-April-28, 03:10

Yes, it was given away or not.
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