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#1 User is offline   jdonn 

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Posted 2010-April-20, 17:08

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1♥ by south, 1NT by north, 3♥ by south raised to 4♥. I'm not particularly interested what anyone thinks of the bidding, it's a play problem.

Queen of clubs lead. Go!

Just an FYI, I'm taking the heart spots from memory so I reserve the right to change them later. AJT are correct though and the rest were somewhat smaller.
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Posted 2010-April-20, 17:58

Ok...at the table, would tend not to take more than 5 minutes to play to trick one, so:

Win the A, cash the K (if lucky) pitching diamond.

Hook diamond. If it loses, I am almost always down...need to find KQ tight of trump and no trump promotion for 98xx.

So assume it wins, now trump A and a low trump...even if they tease me with the 8 or 9.

This is not going to be comfortable if rho wins the trump and fires the 3rd club at me...in fact, I am now reduced to hoping rho was dealt KQx in trump...I have to ruff with the J and exit a 3rd round.

I'm not always down if rho ruffs the second club...

if he ruffs small, overruff and lead a spade to the J. Who knows? Maybe it holds! Then what? Diamond to the Ace assure me of being able to ruff out the spade Ace but then I have problems getting off dummy and there are diamond ruffs/trump promotions that are unhappy...plus LHO will have QJ in clubs and spade Ace, so maybe won't hold diamond King. So I'd hook diamond and hope to ruff spade Ace out then hook diamond again and now A and a trump, hoping to make an overtrick :rolleyes:

If the 2nd club is ruffed with a middle spot, overruff and spade as before.
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Posted 2010-April-20, 18:17

Would play the same line as Mikeh, AK of Cs, pitching a D, D hook and then A and small H. Hoping to lose but 2 hearts and 1 S.
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Posted 2010-April-20, 18:29

Just to offer up a line for discussion, how about winning the club and taking a diamond finesse right away, then exiting with a spade. Partly to get opponents to lead trumps for you, and partly to avoid the possibility of either 1-4 or 4-1 clubs or a promotion given any club break.
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Posted 2010-April-20, 18:35

jdonn, on Apr 20 2010, 07:29 PM, said:

Just to offer up a line for discussion, how about winning the club and taking a diamond finesse right away, then exiting with a spade. Partly to get opponents to lead trumps for you, and partly to avoid the possibility of either 1-4 or 4-1 clubs or a promotion given any club break.

I was leaning in that direction, myself. Probably a good reason to run from that idea.
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Posted 2010-April-20, 18:53

jdonn, on Apr 20 2010, 07:29 PM, said:

Just to offer up a line for discussion, how about winning the club and taking a diamond finesse right away, then exiting with a spade. Partly to get opponents to lead trumps for you, and partly to avoid the possibility of either 1-4 or 4-1 clubs or a promotion given any club break.

certainly could work, but if rho wins the spade Ace and leads a trump, LHO will know it's safe to continue spades and now you fail even when the diamond K is onside and trump behave. But...it certainly offers some chances that my line doesn't...I'm not good enough to tell the two lines apart on a percentage basis, especially since both lines may win, when they shouldn't, due to defensive misplays/misreads.
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