BBO Discussion Forums: no blame 2 - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

no blame 2

#1 User is offline   lmilne 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 348
  • Joined: 2009-October-20
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney, Australia

Posted 2010-April-19, 17:28

Scoring: MP


(1)-P-(P)-2;
(2)-3-(P)-P;
(3)-X-AP.
0

#2 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2010-April-19, 17:31

Um, this one has blame!
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#3 User is offline   lmilne 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 348
  • Joined: 2009-October-20
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney, Australia

Posted 2010-April-19, 17:48

Provocative thread title :)
Are you passing out 1? How about at different vul e.g. nil/fav?
0

#4 User is offline   junyi_zhu 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 536
  • Joined: 2003-May-28
  • Location:Saltlake City

Posted 2010-April-19, 18:26

lmilne, on Apr 19 2010, 11:48 PM, said:

Provocative thread title :)
Are you passing out 1? How about at different vul e.g. nil/fav?

It is a clear pass for south, regardless game format.
0

#5 User is offline   dake50 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,211
  • Joined: 2006-April-22

Posted 2010-April-19, 19:18

Having made a deviating reopening 2H (2xK bal in there?) and dreams-come-true a raise, never pass 3S-x by a partner who took no direct action over 1S.
Describe this hand as pure offense 4H.
0

#6 User is offline   bb79 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 213
  • Joined: 2007-November-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2010-April-19, 19:29

blame east, who passed with pocket aces :)
0

#7 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2010-April-19, 19:34

Every non-pass NS made was bad in my opinion.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#8 User is offline   P_Marlowe 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,909
  • Joined: 2005-March-18
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2010-April-20, 03:29

Hi,

#1 2H was fine, it is of course a matter of agreement, but for us 2H would be
normal and ok.
#2 3H is ok, ..., you have an opening bid, even if you subtract the king you
have to make a move.
3C should show heart fit (or at least tolerance) and some values, basically
at leats inv., so I prefer 3C to 3H.
#3 X is bidding your hand twice, and basically hanging p for reopening.
Of course, if you have agreed, that 2H showes more, than the 2H bidder is
to balme, but even if South has the jack of hearts and diamonds, and not 2H
becomes reasonable to obvious, the X is still garbage.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
0

#9 User is offline   Codo 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,373
  • Joined: 2003-March-15
  • Location:Hamburg, Germany
  • Interests:games and sports, esp. bridge,chess and (beach-)volleyball

Posted 2010-April-20, 07:11

I like wests bidding.
I hate Easts passive bidding that deserved to write a bottom fr +170 opposite +420.

I understood 2 Heart at mps, I would hate to bid and hate to pass, so what shall we do?

I understood 3 and x from north. It was mps, not imps, going passive is not always the way to win a board. This time partner had real submin. for his bid.
Give him one of east aces and West is done by brute force despite his singelton Heart.
Kind Regards

Roland


Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
0

#10 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2010-April-20, 07:22

South's a tad light to balance. Excellent dog-walking by West, though... lol ;)
0

#11 User is offline   pooltuna 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,814
  • Joined: 2009-July-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Orleans

Posted 2010-April-20, 08:25

jdonn, on Apr 19 2010, 08:34 PM, said:

Every non-pass NS made was bad in my opinion.

In real life or online but not at an idiot's bridge tournament :)
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

George Bernard Shaw
0

#12 User is offline   jjbrr 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,525
  • Joined: 2009-March-30
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2010-April-20, 08:32

lol. does east really have 2 aces?
OK
bed
0

#13 User is offline   cherdanno 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,640
  • Joined: 2009-February-16

Posted 2010-April-20, 08:54

jdonn, on Apr 19 2010, 08:34 PM, said:

Every non-pass NS made was bad in my opinion.

And every pass by East was horrible!
"Are you saying that LTC merits a more respectful dismissal?"
0

#14 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2010-April-20, 10:11

I hope josh that you don't mean that north has to pass over 2, he has to act IMO, although double (if take out), 2NT and 3 look better than 3.
0

#15 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2010-April-20, 10:18

Fluffy, on Apr 20 2010, 11:11 AM, said:

I hope josh that you don't mean that north has to pass over 2, he has to act IMO, although double (if take out), 2NT and 3 look better than 3.

3 obv I think.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#16 User is offline   aguahombre 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 12,029
  • Joined: 2009-February-21
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:St. George, UT

Posted 2010-April-20, 10:21

Fluffy, on Apr 20 2010, 10:11 AM, said:

I hope josh that you don't mean that north has to pass over 2, he has to act IMO

I hope Josh means exactly that.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
0

#17 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2010-April-20, 10:40

We could look at Josh's clarification instead of guessing what he meant!
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#18 User is offline   mikeh 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,657
  • Joined: 2005-June-15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:Bridge, golf, wine (red), cooking, reading eclectically but insatiably, travelling, making bad posts.

Posted 2010-April-20, 11:03

East is a novice, who should have caught partner with Jxxxx AKQxx Kx x

S is hyper-aggressive..... I have sympathy for 2, but the risk of over-competition on this hand is very real.

3 is insane. Either pass or 3 would be far better....3 should imply some heart tolerance (not necessarily AQ of course) since N couldn't bid directly over 1 yet bids over 2...something has caused N to upgrade. I can't tell if I'd bid 3 or pass, having seen the hands.

If N did bid 3 and West bid 3, I have great sympathy for the double. Why assume that partner has a defensive horror? And we may need to get 300 to protect our plus score. At imps, the double would be the worst call in the auction (ok, the second worst...that pass by East makes me want to puke), but mps is a different game.
'one of the great markers of the advance of human kindness is the howls you will hear from the Men of God' Johann Hari
0

#19 User is offline   pooltuna 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,814
  • Joined: 2009-July-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Orleans

Posted 2010-April-20, 12:07

aguahombre, on Apr 20 2010, 11:21 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Apr 20 2010, 10:11 AM, said:

I hope josh that you don't mean that north has to pass over 2, he has to act IMO

I hope Josh means exactly that.

Basically by insisting N pass over 2 you are saying S can hold no opening hands for his 2 call. If you allow for the possibility of an opening hand then pass over 2 is a non sequitur. N will need to either X for penalties or make a call.
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

George Bernard Shaw
0

#20 User is offline   cherdanno 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,640
  • Joined: 2009-February-16

Posted 2010-April-20, 13:39

pooltuna, on Apr 20 2010, 01:07 PM, said:

aguahombre, on Apr 20 2010, 11:21 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Apr 20 2010, 10:11 AM, said:

I hope josh that you don't mean that north has to pass over 2, he has to act IMO

I hope Josh means exactly that.

Basically by insisting N pass over 2 you are saying S can hold no opening hands for his 2 call. If you allow for the possibility of an opening hand then pass over 2 is a non sequitur. N will need to either X for penalties or make a call.

We could look at Josh's clarification instead of guessing what he meant!
"Are you saying that LTC merits a more respectful dismissal?"
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users