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The example hand is a trick short of my minimum requirement for 5♦.
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Posted 2010-April-18, 15:50
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2010-April-18, 17:00
So say 4D is right, for a complete answer, does that mean we pass out 4H from RHO?
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Posted 2010-April-18, 17:19
I can see why some people are bidding 4♦, but I would go for 5. (I admit I am a bit like the people jlall is mocking...zomg 9 diamonds, I must bid 5).
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Posted 2010-April-18, 17:26
rogerclee, on Apr 17 2010, 08:51 PM, said:
gwnn, on Apr 17 2010, 01:28 PM, said:
5♦-I have 9 diamonds and 4 cards in the majors, that means I should bid to the 5 level.
Do you mean you are lucky to have only 4 cards in the majors (given that you have 9 diamonds)?
nah I just invented a new law, substract the number of major suit cards from your longest minor. But maybe it was square root of longest minor+square root of majors. Now i don't remember. oh right I was trying to say that science has little to do with all this, finally I understood my post.
Anyway yes, I am one of the simplistic people who always bid 5♦ when they have 9. I don't think partner can bid intelligently over 4♦ (i.e. save often when we have -200 vs game). That said, I do not have a lot of experience with 9 card suits.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-April-18, 18:34
gwnn, on Apr 18 2010, 06:26 PM, said:
I don't think partner can bid intelligently over 4♦ (i.e. save often when we have -200 vs game). That said, I do not have a lot of experience with 9 card suits.
Think about what we need for -200, at least Kx of diamonds and the SK, and even then if he has 4 hearts we are at risk on 3 rounds of hearts of losing a trump.
Usually we're gonna need 3 diamonds (which will include an honor) and an ace (or the SK)...and even then if it's the CA we are going to be down 500.
Alternatively he might have 3 diamonds and a stiff major.
With all of those hands except Kx of diamonds and the SK and out I would expect partner to bid 5D every time.
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Posted 2010-April-18, 18:38
Pict, on Apr 18 2010, 06:00 PM, said:
So say 4D is right, for a complete answer, does that mean we pass out 4H from RHO?
yes bidding 4 then 5 would be the worst
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Posted 2010-April-18, 20:51
jdonn, on Apr 18 2010, 06:49 PM, said:
Fluffy, on Apr 18 2010, 01:36 PM, said:
9 carder equal vul, I really doubt I'd do anything but bid 5♦. And I'd think of anyone who suggest otherwise that he is being resulting.
Resulting? Vulnerable at mps??
I said I'd think that you are resulting, not that you actually are.