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#1 User is offline   OleBerg 

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Posted 2010-April-16, 02:54

Playing MP's you are in a heart contract with all the communication and control you need. RHO has made a delayed take-out double of hearts.


This is the spade suit:

972

vs

J654


If you can develop the fourth spade into a trick, it will give you an overtrick.

When you play a spade from dummy, the 10 pops out of RHO's hand. Your table presence tells you it is a well-prepared card.

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Posted 2010-April-16, 02:59

ducking is right when LHO has stiff honnor or 2 honnors doubleton. If you really think east had the 10 prepared it sounds right to duck.

Early in the morning so probably wrong, playing the jack only wins when RHO has AKQ10(x) doens't it?. much less likelly.
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Posted 2010-April-16, 03:10

Fluffy, on Apr 16 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

ducking is right when LHO has stiff honnor or 2 honnors doubleton. If you really think east had the 10 prepared it sounds right to duck.

Early in the morning so probably wrong, playing the jack only wins when RHO has AKQ10(x) doens't it?. much less likelly.

Playing the jack wins when LHO has H8. (Which is of course a Grossvenor.)
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Posted 2010-April-16, 03:29

Surely we would have more information than just this suit combination in isolation. Anyways I would duck with the info given.
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Posted 2010-April-16, 04:29

Jlall, on Apr 16 2010, 11:29 AM, said:

Surely we would have more information than just this suit combination in isolation. Anyways I would duck with the info given.

Sure.

LHO: Probably the third best Danish female player, if you include Sabine Auken.
RHO: Open teams player 20 years ago. Still obviously qualified for Senior Teams.

Bidding, starting with North:

1 -   (Pass)  - 1 -  (Pass)
2 -     (X)    -   XX   -  (3)
3 - (Pass) - Pass - (Pass)

Full deal:


Scoring: MP


The Play:

The 7 led to the jack, queen.
A heart comes back.
A heart to the Ace reveals that RHO started with only one heart. (10 lurks.)
A diamond is led towards dummy, LHO discarding the Q

Now a low spade from dummy, and the 10 from RHO
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Posted 2010-April-16, 04:43

the bidding revelas RHO has 4 spades, given no spade lead its either AQ or H8 wich matters, I congratulate RHO for his grosvenor if he did so.
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Posted 2010-April-17, 09:04

Did this problem really occur? Even if RHO is in his dotage and LHO has spent her entire life playing in women's events, it's hard to believe that nobody made another bid over 3.

If RHO has all the spade honours, he had a guaranteed set by giving a diamond ruff at trick two. Hence LHO has at least one honour. Would you defend 3 with Kx xxx x 1098xxxx? And would you make only one bid with AQ10x x KQ98x KQJ ?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-April-17, 10:57

gnasher, on Apr 17 2010, 05:04 PM, said:

Did this problem really occur? Even if RHO is in his dotage and LHO has spent her entire life playing in women's events, it's hard to believe that nobody made another bid over 3.

If RHO has all the spade honours, he had a guaranteed set by giving a diamond ruff at trick two. Hence LHO has at least one honour. Would you defend 3 with Kx xxx x 1098xxxx? And would you make only one bid with AQ10x x KQ98x KQJ ?

Yes, it did occur. And be nice to other people, even world-class players mis-compete or make defensive errors.

(You can be rough with me, but the people I mention should be left alone.)
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Posted 2010-April-17, 14:17

LHO sucks and RHO is way too old.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-April-17, 14:19

OleBerg, on Apr 17 2010, 05:57 PM, said:

Yes, it did occur. And be nice to other people, even world-class players mis-compete or make defensive errors.

(You can be rough with me, but the people I mention should be left alone.)

I wasn't not being nice about the people. I was commenting on an apparent disparity between the opponents' bidding and their hands. That's a fairly normal thing to do in a forum about bridge.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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