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Can you give me your opinions on this contract please, be as critical as you like, I just want to know what is correct way to bid it please
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what could we do differently comments required please
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Posted 2004-July-25, 02:31
I could probably reproduce the hand from the above, given the inclination, but why not post it?
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
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ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2004-July-25, 04:43
IT wouldn´t be that fun then 
, this is like a time-losing quizz or somethign like, if you got time to spare try to decode the hand and then criticice the bidding
, this is like a time-losing quizz or somethign like, if you got time to spare try to decode the hand and then criticice the bidding
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Posted 2004-July-25, 05:01
What is going on Wayne? Are you having trouble with that LinConverter?
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True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2004-July-25, 06:48
I think that's right,
2-4-2-5 is not a good shape for 1NT. 4333, 4432 or 5332(5-card minor) are, IMO, fairly standard.
A better sequence, I am not saying the best, is:
1C-1D-1H-3NT
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Posted 2004-July-25, 07:20
3Nt is a fine contract at any form of scoring, and definitely the best at IMPS.
If you methods allow 4-way xfers, as a responder I would try first a transfer to diamonds to see whether opener superaccepts: if you find a diamond fit, the potential for diamonds slam allows to investigate further.
If no superaccept, 3NT seems the normal contract.
If you methods allow 4-way xfers, as a responder I would try first a transfer to diamonds to see whether opener superaccepts: if you find a diamond fit, the potential for diamonds slam allows to investigate further.
If no superaccept, 3NT seems the normal contract.
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Posted 2004-July-25, 07:56
I must admit that I don't understand the question as your sequence looks fine - where else did you want to be? Also any other auction gives more information to the opposition.
Paul
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Posted 2004-July-25, 08:16
1NT-3NT
North isn't good enough for a slam try, close but no cigar,
North isn't good enough for a slam try, close but no cigar,
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Posted 2004-July-25, 09:01
2 balanced hands with maximum 30 HCP combined usually have not much chance for slam. Because of the ♦ 3-3, a poor lead and poor discarding you get extra tricks... Imo maximum tricks you should get is 11, so 3NT is the best contract anyway.
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Posted 2004-July-25, 10:53
1N-3N
Give me a sixth diamond or a stiff, and I'll transfer and make a slam try. In spite of the great controls, the 5332 is a turnoff with a marginal hand.
How on earth did you make 13 tricks? Maybe with these opponents you should have made a slam try
Give me a sixth diamond or a stiff, and I'll transfer and make a slam try. In spite of the great controls, the 5332 is a turnoff with a marginal hand.
How on earth did you make 13 tricks? Maybe with these opponents you should have made a slam try
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Posted 2004-July-25, 11:24
pclayton, on Jul 25 2004, 04:53 PM, said:
1N-3N
Give me a sixth diamond or a stiff, and I'll transfer and make a slam try. In spite of the great controls, the 5332 is a turnoff with a marginal hand.
How on earth did you make 13 tricks? Maybe with these opponents you should have made a slam try
Give me a sixth diamond or a stiff, and I'll transfer and make a slam try. In spite of the great controls, the 5332 is a turnoff with a marginal hand.
How on earth did you make 13 tricks? Maybe with these opponents you should have made a slam try
4th highest from KJxx stands out as a bad lead,
Presumably East discarded a ♠ on dummy's ♦s!
That gives 5 ♦, 4 ♠, 2 ♥ and 1 ♣
I don't see #13...
Perhaps the main BIL lesson on this hand is the importance of communication in defence?
What should the defence discard on the 4th ♦? A ♥ from East, a ♠ from West?
What should be discarded on the 5th ♦?
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Posted 2004-July-25, 18:31
Even if you tell me we are getting five diamond tricks I do not want to be in slam.
One of the skills that you need to learn if you want to improve is the discernment to recognize a good contract independent of the result that you actually obtained.
I know that there is a saying that a making slam is a good slam but ...
... there are good and even great contracts that fail and there are poor contracts that succeed.
For long term success you want to get to the great ones that fail and avoid the poor ones that succeed. Short term this doesn't always seem fair and reasonable.
Of course getting lucky occasionally won't hinder your scores.
One of the skills that you need to learn if you want to improve is the discernment to recognize a good contract independent of the result that you actually obtained.
I know that there is a saying that a making slam is a good slam but ...
... there are good and even great contracts that fail and there are poor contracts that succeed.
For long term success you want to get to the great ones that fail and avoid the poor ones that succeed. Short term this doesn't always seem fair and reasonable.
Of course getting lucky occasionally won't hinder your scores.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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