[mohitz]

2♣ or 1♠?

♠AKJTxxx ♥AKQTx ♦x ♣-

EDIT: IMPs if it matters.

This post has been edited by mohitz: 2010-April-09, 21:01

[aguahombre]

this would be an exception to our "style". Will treat as one-suiter and open 2C, my next jump to 3S allows partner to show the diamond ace and/or spade queen. Not spade length, though....but will pray.

[Jlall]

My hand is strong enough that I feel comfortable operating with a 1S opener since I'm gonna drive to slam anyways, I want to make sure to get to the right suit and getting to hearts when it's right might be tricky if I open 2C.

[Free]

Clear 1♠ for me. The auction won't die and I'll be able to get my 2 suits + strength in much easier.

[ggwhiz]

1 spade here too. A huge minor-suit pre-empt is much more likely than a pass out and a grand might be more likely in hearts than spades.

[jjbrr]

1♠

[billw55]

hmm, I was going to pick 2♣ on the nagging fear that 1♠ could pass out. Not very often, but when it does, ouch.

Maybe a good poster hand for 1♣ systems?

[MFA]

billw55, on Apr 12 2010, 02:46 PM, said:

hmm, I was going to pick 2♣ on the nagging fear that 1♠ could pass out.  Not very often, but when it does, ouch.

Maybe a good poster hand for 1♣ systems?

Not sure. I think the strongest point in favour of 1♠ is that it copes better with enemy preemption. A strong club would also be in trouble over a high preempt.

Reminds me of a recent board from the gold coast (aus) tournament.

I had AKQTxx, AQJ9xx, x, -, and opened a strong club. Even though the opponents could make seven diamonds, if we lead the wrong major, they didn't bid at all, fortunately. Not very strong opps.

We bid
1♣ (any 16+) - 1♦ (any 0-8)
1♥ (any 20+) - 1♠ (any 0-4)
2♣ (any GF) - 2♦ (waiting)
2♠ - 3♠ (good raise)
4♣ - 4♥ (!)
6♠

Partner had xxx, Kxx, xxx, xxxx.

[fromageGB]

I can't envisage this hand being passed out with all those minors missing AND over half the pack in high card points. So it's 1♠ for me then if partner replies 1NT (2 over 1) I bid 2♣ Gazzilli which is forcing, and over the 2♦ relay I don't have anything to describe a hand this powerful, so bid 3♥ (which is forcing) and see if I get preference. I can then cue 5♣ and hope for a diamond reply.

If interference scuppers this plan, I rebid 6♥.
If partner makes a sign-off into a minor over the Gazzilli I still bid 6♥.

[Phil]

1♠.

[Free]

I wouldn't want to play a strong ♣ system when I hold this hand. I expect opps to interfere, so we'll be no better off than after a 2♣ opening playing standard.

[P_Marlowe]

1S.

The hand is strong enough for a game force, but the risk
of getting pased out in 1S is non existing.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Fluffy]

clear 1♠ we can easilly belong in hearts.

change ♠A to ♠Q making it ♠KQJ10xxx ♥AKQ10x ♦x ♣- and I might open 2♣ since we always belong in spades then.

[Fluffy]

MFA, on Apr 12 2010, 01:40 PM, said:

billw55, on Apr 12 2010, 02:46 PM, said:

hmm, I was going to pick 2♣ on the nagging fear that 1♠ could pass out.  Not very often, but when it does, ouch.

Maybe a good poster hand for 1♣ systems?

Not sure. I think the strongest point in favour of 1♠ is that it copes better with enemy preemption. A strong club would also be in trouble over a high preempt.

Reminds me of a recent board from the gold coast (aus) tournament.

I had AKQTxx, AQJ9xx, x, -, and opened a strong club. Even though the opponents could make seven diamonds, if we lead the wrong major, they didn't bid at all, fortunately. Not very strong opps.

We bid
1♣ (any 16+) - 1♦ (any 0-8)
1♥ (any 20+) - 1♠ (any 0-4)
2♣ (any GF) - 2♦ (waiting)
2♠ - 3♠ (good raise)
4♣ - 4♥ (!)
6♠

Partner had xxx, Kxx, xxx, xxxx.

isn't 6♠ down on right defence?

[MFA]

Fluffy, on Apr 13 2010, 10:53 AM, said:

MFA, on Apr 12 2010, 01:40 PM, said:

billw55, on Apr 12 2010, 02:46 PM, said:

hmm, I was going to pick 2♣ on the nagging fear that 1♠ could pass out.  Not very often, but when it does, ouch.

Maybe a good poster hand for 1♣ systems?

Not sure. I think the strongest point in favour of 1♠ is that it copes better with enemy preemption. A strong club would also be in trouble over a high preempt.

Reminds me of a recent board from the gold coast (aus) tournament.

I had AKQTxx, AQJ9xx, x, -, and opened a strong club. Even though the opponents could make seven diamonds, if we lead the wrong major, they didn't bid at all, fortunately. Not very strong opps.

We bid
1♣ (any 16+) - 1♦ (any 0-8)
1♥ (any 20+) - 1♠ (any 0-4)
2♣ (any GF) - 2♦ (waiting)
2♠ - 3♠ (good raise)
4♣ - 4♥ (!)
6♠

Partner had xxx, Kxx, xxx, xxxx.

isn't 6♠ down on right defence?

Yes. The opening leader just has to underlead his diamond ace to get partner in for a heart ruff!

[Codo]

I would open 2♣. If I had hold any other suits, I would surely open 1 M. But with both majors this is way too dangerous for me.

[H_KARLUK]

♠AKJTxxx ♥AKQTx ♦x ♣-
2♣ because 1.5 losers, eliminates pass by partner risk. With 7 cards and only ♠Q loser if there's a ♥ fit also welcome and not hard to find after 2♣>2♦(waiting);2♠ then to 3♣ or 3♦ simply use natural 3♥ rebid.
Another advantage there are 9 even 10 quick winners after a ruff and knocked out ♠Q with dropped ♥ J , so just establish spades as trumps. Safer to ruff with long suit.