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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-April-14, 18:00

Qxxx
KQxx
xxxx
x

1♥-p-2♥-2♠
4♥-?

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Posted 2010-April-14, 18:02

I hate to double before showing my support, but I will do it now. Hope a normal partner thinks of this as penalty
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Posted 2010-April-14, 18:03

4♠ counting on the usual 3 possible ways to win.
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Posted 2010-April-14, 18:05

4S is a pretty special bid with KQxx of hearts
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Posted 2010-April-14, 18:49

I'm a special person. Ace lead ruffed, wrapping!
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Posted 2010-April-15, 04:09

Pass.
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Posted 2010-April-15, 05:25

For me this is an easy pass.
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Posted 2010-April-15, 06:07

Pretty clear pass.
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Posted 2010-April-15, 07:12

Put me down for the special bid too.

It just seems that the times I pass because I have some defense - probably 2 tricks here, perhaps 1 trick plus handling charges - declarer has an easier time than I hoped, and the times I do bid an unclear 4♠ over 4♥, partner often comes up with the goods.

If partner were to reopen over 4♥ whenever 4♠ is making, I would like pass a lot more, but I am not convinced that will happen.
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Posted 2010-April-15, 07:24

Pard's 2♠ could have been an obar bid. It's a bit of a guess but I'm gonna pass.
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Posted 2010-April-15, 08:04

Does partner's 2S show a hand that quite improves with support? I have that.
Or does 2S show short of DT for X, then Spades, but in there anyway.
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Posted 2010-April-15, 08:56

jdonn, on Apr 14 2010, 07:03 PM, said:

4♠ counting on the usual 3 possible ways to win.

hmmm...lets see if I can guess 1.) you make 2.) you save 3.) they volunteer to go down in 5♥ :)
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Posted 2010-April-15, 09:01

nay
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Posted 2010-April-15, 10:22

Yay I got 655321 on board, get off my back jlall!
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Posted 2010-April-15, 12:21

jdonn, on Apr 15 2010, 11:22 AM, said:

Yay I got 655321 on board, get off my back jlall!

nah, you're screwed! You're going for a telephone number and you got me on your side (well this hand :) ) :P
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Posted 2010-April-15, 13:10

jdonn, on Apr 15 2010, 11:22 AM, said:

Yay I got 655321 on board, get off my back jlall!

Haha I don't understand the passers either I would crack this all day. Seems like they go down extremely often, and not infrequently down 2. I like 4S a lot better than pass.

You mention the usual 3 ways to win, but if you can get 200 or 500 vs them almost always then that doesn't apply obv. I don't think we make 4S enough for it to be right.

On the other hand you have 655321 so I lose :P
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Posted 2010-April-15, 13:54

hey, you got me! don't I count something (cries)

Anyway I've been thinking this evening on the hand and I am moving towards 4♠ now. Opponents have to bid next round and might lead ♥A also, and they are awful!.

pass is not on my book, I know pass must be better than 4♠ or double, but it is also worse than the other one so suboptimal nevertheless :P.
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