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#1 User is offline   straube 

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Posted 2010-April-10, 10:52

2nd seat, unfav, 1st chair opens 2D
KJT65 KQJ94 J5 7

Our agreement is that direct seat action shows about a king more than balancing seat. Basically a 2-level overcall here should show an opening hand with a decent suit. We play that 3D is Michaels.

3D? 2S? Pass?

I passed. I regret that but I'm still not sure what action to take.

Thoughts?
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Posted 2010-April-10, 12:30

2 for me
OK
bed
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Posted 2010-April-10, 12:49

Pass is horrible, you cannot pass with this. I'd just bid 3D.
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Posted 2010-April-10, 13:16

It's nice not to have to choose between 2 and 4.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-April-10, 13:30

i don't think 3 should have a higher minimum than 2 (unlike, I think, it is properly done over 1 where 1 should have a lower minimum than 2)
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-April-10, 13:35

Make your Michaels bid.
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Sidebar: Better to use Roman Jumps ( for 2-suiters over a weak 2D --- 3H!-jump would show both majors). That way you can reserve 3D! as a stop-ask for NT when you have long running suit ( say Cl ), but need a Diam stop for 9 tricks.
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Posted 2010-April-10, 14:26

Lucky that you have Michaels available. Use it.
If 3D were not Michaels, then bid 2S.
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Posted 2010-April-10, 19:12

Thanks for the feedback. So at what point does this become a pass?

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It would be nice to have a rule of thumb for knowing how strong one has to be to act here.
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Posted 2010-April-12, 03:25

straube, on Apr 11 2010, 02:12 AM, said:

Thanks for the feedback. So at what point does this become a pass?

KJTxx KQxxx Jx x

KJTxx KJTxx Jx x

KJxxx KJxxx Jx x

Kxxxx KJxxx Jx x

Kxxxx Kxxxx Jx x

It would be nice to have a rule of thumb for knowing how strong one has to be to act here.

I think that the last two are too weak, because it would make the range too wide otherwise.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-April-12, 05:28

As a sound live bidder, the third one is already too weak, the second one is a close call.
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Posted 2010-April-12, 13:18

Fluffy, on Apr 12 2010, 06:28 AM, said:

As a sound live bidder, the third one is already too weak, the second one is a close call.

Agree, except with the part about being sound heh. I'd probably pass with 3 and bid with 2.
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