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Two slams after Kokish relay

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Posted 2010-April-07, 03:05

Both practive hands. Both butchered by us

Scoring: IMP


Bidding (precision)

1♣ - 1♦
2♥* - 2♠**
3♠ - 4♣
??

2♥ was Kokish relay
3♠ sets ♠ as trumps
4♣ was cuebid

We are not sure what is the best way to show some values after 3♠. Is this a good idea to play some kind of control showing bid here (like 3NT = A/2K, cuebids with kings) or just plain cuebids ?
Here opener is likely to face no play slam oppostie something like :
xx xxxx xxx Kxxx which looks to be most likely hand. On the other hand he has grand slam opposite:
kxx xxxx xx Kxxx
Any ideas how to solve it ? On our table it went 4♠ by opener 6♠ by responder on the basis that slam has to have some play with 3card support and stiff ♦.

2nd hand:

Scoring: IMP


1♣ - 1♦
2♥ - 2♠
3♣ - 3♥ (??)
4♣ - 5♣
6♣ passes

5♣ denied cuebid anywhere (ok ?).
6♦ is claim at trick 1 basically while 6♣ is below average slam.

Here we have completely no idea how to bid it. Any ideas about bidding after this 2♥ relay. It seems that it's very difficult to get any precision there...
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