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An evening at Young Chelsea (2) Those pesky pre-empts!

#1 User is offline   Rossoneri 

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Posted 2010-March-31, 19:07

Scoring: MP

You are North:
3C-P-P-?


Scoring: MP

You are North:
3C-P-P-?

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Posted 2010-March-31, 19:20

3D on the first and pass the second.
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Posted 2010-March-31, 19:58

The_Hog, on Mar 31 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

3D on the first and pass the second.

Agree. I think these actions are clear.
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Posted 2010-March-31, 21:08

3♦ and yes, I pass
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Posted 2010-March-31, 21:36

The_Hog, on Mar 31 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

3D on the first and pass the second.

agree...don't understand why these are posted as problems...can't imagine any rational alternative (but I have a limited imagination)
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Posted 2010-March-31, 21:38

Agree and WTP?

On the first, partner is almost always going to pass or bid 3NT. I have a great dummy for NT and I certainly prefer either of those to defending 3C.

On the second, bidding is going to guarantee a minus score -- if partner has the balance of the missing strength, he will bury me.

But I think these are the same hand. It would be better to post the problem after

3C-P-P-3D
P-?

but I would bid 3H since I wouldn't think we had any assurance of a plus score in 3D, and I think we are pot-committed at this point.
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Posted 2010-March-31, 21:55

Rossoneri, on Mar 31 2010, 08:07 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

You are North:
3C-P-P-?
Scoring: MP

You are North:
3C-P-P-?
Agree with everybody
  • 3♦ = 10, _P = 9. Looks like bad ♠ break and partner is likely to bid them.
  • _P = 10, _X = 4, 3♥ = 3. Prefer sound actions in immediate seat.

xcurt, on Mar 31 2010, 10:38 PM, said:

But I think these are the same hand.  It would be better to post the problem after
3C-P-P-3D
P-? but I would bid 3H since I wouldn't think we had any assurance of a plus score in 3D, and I think we are pot-committed at this point.
Oh! Well spotted! :lol: Agree with 3♥ :P
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Posted 2010-April-01, 01:54

ArtK78, on Apr 1 2010, 02:58 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Mar 31 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

3D on the first and pass the second.

Agree. I think these actions are clear.

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Posted 2010-April-01, 03:43

agree w/ all. except the 9 and the 4 and the 3 from nige1 post!
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Posted 2010-April-01, 05:33

What Ron said.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 07:52

3D and pass. Would pass the first one if there was table action from RHO I guess.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 15:32

Thanks for the replies guys, more of a sanity check.

We both agreed that if partner had bid 3D I would now bid 3H.
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