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#1 User is offline   mich-b 

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Posted 2010-March-27, 23:36

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What is your preferred plan with hands like this?
Open 1m (which) and over 1♠ rebid 2NT?
Open 1m (which) and over 1♠ rebid 2♥?
Open 1♦ and rebid 2♣?
Anything else?

Does the relative quality of your suits matter?
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Posted 2010-March-27, 23:43

I would probably bid 1C then 2N but I don't think it matters much which minor you open, or if you bid 2H or 2N after that in the long run. I really dislike 1D then 2C though.
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Posted 2010-March-28, 02:26

I probably open 1♦ with the intent of reversing into 2♥, rebidding 2N over 2♠ & 3N over 3♦. Could get me in trouble, I guess
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Posted 2010-March-28, 06:01

On this hand I open 1♣, intending to bid 2NT over 1♠.

On other hands I might open 1♦ with the same intended follow up.

I would tend to bid the suit I would be less happy about partner having a singleton in.
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Posted 2010-March-28, 10:16

That damn spade queen. Without it, there would be a whole new array of issues-- like how the choice of 1C vs 1D affects systemic inferences later in auctions where opener has shown an unbalanced hand. With this hand, many are willing to call it balanced.
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Posted 2010-March-28, 15:35

Hi,

1D, followed by 2C.

Rebidding 2NT is ok, I would never rebid 2H.

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Posted 2010-March-28, 15:54

1m then 2NT for me.
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Posted 2010-March-28, 16:15

1♦ then 2N. Why is it that some would open 1♣ vs 1♦?
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Posted 2010-March-28, 16:15

655321, on Mar 28 2010, 04:54 PM, said:

1m then 2NT for me.

Me too - I want my reverses to show at least five (unless I am desperate) in the 1st suit and my ♠Q looks like a nice filler in NT.
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Posted 2010-March-28, 22:37

Little Kid, on Mar 28 2010, 05:15 PM, said:

1♦ then 2N. Why is it that some would open 1♣ vs 1♦?

It gives p more room to bid a suit. and as a consequence,
the chance that 1S after 1C is a 5 carder is a lot higher.

If you intend to rebid 2NT after 1S, those two points are helpful.

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Posted 2010-March-29, 00:46

1N for me. It's only a slight underbid and my extra strength might be needed if pd bids lots of spades or doubles their spades.
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Posted 2010-March-29, 01:04

Showing 15-17 when you have 19 is more than a slight underbid!
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Posted 2010-March-29, 02:18

jdonn, on Mar 29 2010, 02:04 AM, said:

Showing 15-17 when you have 19 is more than a slight underbid!

Maybe. The hand is worth 19 not because of the stiff queen but because I have a slightly unbalanced hand with four suits that have reinforced honors. The knr is 17.9 for hcps and with 1 pt for distribution it totals 18.9.

The trouble is describing this hand. I have no good way to show 3 suits with this hand and most of the suggestions don't even get my best and most important suit mentioned. Besides which, partner may not give me that extra point for a 4441 when his suit is spades.

I'd rather describe this hand as balanced than as a 2-suited hand. I think my second choice would be to open 1D and rebid 2N, but that is a slight overbid and I'd rather pull on these hands.
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Posted 2010-March-29, 05:58

systemic 1♦-2♥, I hate to show 2 spades when I only have one.
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Posted 2010-March-29, 06:08

I like 1D most of the time and would rebid 2N. You can not reverse with this hand type imo.
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Posted 2010-March-29, 07:59

I favor the 2NT-jump rebid because it is the "lesser lie" ... ( than the Reverse ) .
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Posted 2010-March-29, 08:29

My favorite: 1♣ followed by 2♦ showing 16+HCP with 0-2♠, just perfect.

Now I guess 1♣ followed by 2NT.
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Posted 2010-March-29, 09:05

Free, on Mar 29 2010, 09:29 AM, said:

My favorite: 1♣ followed by 2♦ showing 16+HCP with 0-2♠, just perfect.

Now I guess 1♣ followed by 2NT.

I've played 1D-1S, 2C as a 1 rd force. (1D-1S, 3C=5/5 minimum) so
1D-1S, 2C-2D (weak), 2H would be a GF so instead I'd rebid 2N showing either 1-4-4-4 or 1-3-5-4 with 16-bad 19 or so.
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