[barryallen]

fred, on Mar 26 2010, 04:08 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 26 2010, 08:34 PM, said:

It's not clear to me, also, that this won't be doubled. What hands can the guy have to pass 3♣? The answer is weak hands with ♣ and ♦, so there is a strong argument for double.

It is clear to me.

LHO doesn't know how many clubs you have or how strong/shapely your partner's hand is.

Besides that, people never DBL in situations like this, even if they "should"

Fred Gitelman
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3♣ is the only contract which is undoubled so far and still gives partner possible options, so gets my vote.

As for the actual hand this is a disaster, but it's not about partners hand but the best from a bad lot.

[Jlall]

If you pass 3C you have some serious brass... I honestly didn't consider it and would be too scared of something like this (or a less extreme version), but maybe it's the most +EV bid.

If you do pass though be sure not to criticize partner for not overcalling 6H heh.

+1 on playing 4C/4D as strong in the corresponding major, I don't think catering to being able to pass 3 of a minor is a winner.

[whereagles]

-1. I think a strong 1 suiter bids the suit, period.

[gnasher]

If 4m shows a strong one-suiter, you could bid 4♦-4♠;6♥, or 4♣-4♥;5♠ if you trust your partner.

Looking at 13 cards in the majors, I don't think it's a total surprise that partner hates the thought of bidding one of them (though his being a passed hand does make that less likely)

[Fluffy]

I dunno what is the normal agreement on doubling 3♣ by east, discouraging partner to bid again, or encouraging to bid/lead clubs both make sense, but if it was discouraging partner to bid the fact he failed to double might be a good hint that passing is not wonderful.

On the given hadn 2NT-6♣ looks kidna reasonable.

[Free]

Isn't this a perfect hand for some creativity? (2NT)-5NT: Pick a slam, so if South holds a Major suit Ace he can bid grand.

[Fluffy]

yeah, any bid that says I have 11.5/12 sure tricks in majors should work.

[Phil]

gnasher, on Mar 27 2010, 09:53 AM, said:

Maybe 4♣/♦ over 2NT should show an extreme two-suiter?

With the example hand, I was considering SIX ♣/♦ to show this freak.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the standard use of 4♣/4♦ are to show a Namyats hand over 2N.