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#1 User is offline   dkharty 

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Posted 2010-March-22, 12:38

W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold:

♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx

Pass, 3♣, pass to you.

Anything to say here?
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Posted 2010-March-22, 12:43

I know I'd pass opp/ myself but I know people opposite whom I wouldn't.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 12:47

I feel I have to act, partner could easily have 10xx, xxx, AQxx, QJx which will make 3N. I would double rather than bid 3♠, 3N is a lot more likely to make than 4♠.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 12:57

Cyberyeti, on Mar 22 2010, 01:47 PM, said:

I feel I have to act, partner could easily have 10xx, xxx, AQxx, QJx which will make 3N. I would double rather than bid 3♠, 3N is a lot more likely to make than 4♠.

:) Er...sorry if my original post wasn't clear...partner opened 3♣, so he is fairly unlikely to hold that hand :)
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Posted 2010-March-22, 12:58

Pass, there is no alternative.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 12:59

You need aces and club honors. This hand is exactly the opposite of one where you want to stretch to bid 3NT. xxxxx Axx Axx Kx will often just be a claimer whereas the given hand will usually have no real play at all.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 13:04

Pass...

Almost a 3NT, but just not quite right
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Posted 2010-March-22, 13:05

Weird. I thought it was 3♣ on my right and I was still debating between pass, 3♠, and dbl.

This seems like an easy pass.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 13:16

dkharty, on Mar 22 2010, 08:38 PM, said:

W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold:

♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx

Pass, 3♣, pass to you.

Anything to say here?

Normally I'd pass, but against some opponents I might try 2♣.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 14:21

OleBerg, on Mar 22 2010, 02:16 PM, said:

dkharty, on Mar 22 2010, 08:38 PM, said:

W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold:

♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx

Pass, 3♣, pass to you.

Anything to say here?

Normally I'd pass, but against some opponents I might try 2♣.

I know that opposite my regular partner I want to bid 2♣, but I am afraid the rules prevent me from doing that.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 16:53

It's a weak field.. you have to bid because it's possible other tables won't be facing a 3C opener.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 17:01

dkharty, on Mar 22 2010, 01:57 PM, said:

Cyberyeti, on Mar 22 2010, 01:47 PM, said:

I feel I have to act, partner could easily have 10xx, xxx, AQxx, QJx which will make 3N. I would double rather than bid 3♠, 3N is a lot more likely to make than 4♠.

:) Er...sorry if my original post wasn't clear...partner opened 3♣, so he is fairly unlikely to hold that hand ;)

Sorry, easy pass, give partner a nice hand like AKJxxxx and out, what are you making ?

If he has 10xx, xx, x, AKxxxxx and 4♠ is on, unlucky, far more often he'll have x, xx, xxx, AKxxxxx.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 20:54

Easy pass
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Posted 2010-March-22, 23:59

When the hand came up I thought it was a wtp pass...+130 was a poor matchpoint result, since almost every other pair was in either 3NT or 4♠ making. Partner had a normal hand, something like ♠Txx ♥x ♦xx ♣AQJxxxx, and it takes the opps finding a club ruff on the opening lead to beat 4♠; there were several ways for them to misdefend and let 3NT through.
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Posted 2010-March-23, 00:10

Pass.
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Posted 2010-March-23, 03:01

I am at least the third to misread the bidding... Amazing.

As it is, it is a wtp pass. Had the bidding been pass 3♣ however, this had been ugly....
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Posted 2010-March-23, 08:14

dkharty, on Mar 23 2010, 12:59 AM, said:

there were several ways for them to misdefend and let 3NT through.

so they get two chances to always beat 3NT, either red suit lead or ♥+♦switch, and then you're still on a club finesse, and you're upset that you went +130? Even a spade lead and a ♦ switch could be enough to beat this. If the club hook is off, ANY lead will beat it. seems sort of silly. They could even duck ♠ twice and then you'll have communication problems. It seems to me that 3NT only makes because of a miracle layout and nobody in the room defending like a human being.

I know this is resulting, but the fact that no game makes isnt enough to convince you that this is perfectly fine? Getting to 4♠ is impossible anyway.
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Posted 2010-March-23, 08:36

jjbrr, on Mar 23 2010, 09:14 AM, said:

you're upset that you went +130?

Nothing has suggested to me that the opening poster is upset. He took an action that seemed right to him, it didn't work out well on the given hand, and he's here asking for a "sanity check" to make sure he shouldn't be adjusting his judgment.
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Posted 2010-March-23, 08:38

It sounded to me like he was very unhappy getting few matchpoints and was looking for excuses to bid more.
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Posted 2010-March-23, 09:14

dkharty, on Mar 22 2010, 01:38 PM, said:

W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold:

♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx

Pass, 3♣, pass to you.

Anything to say here?

Yes I have something to say and that would be "good luck partner" :)
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