[Mbodell]

Scoring: IMP

1♠ - P - 2nt (jacoby) - 5♣
6♠ - P - ???

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[the hog]

"Are you serious?", to quote John McEnroe. Pass.

[MarkDean]

I was going to post that I thought this was a really obvious pass. Then I started trying to think of partner's hands for this auction, and am not as sure. I would still pass, but only because the IMP odds aren't that good, especially if we do not know they will be in slam at the other table.

[mohitz]

Pass of course. Partner has a stiff club.

[aguahombre]

Dave's rule: Only one of us gets to blast on the same hand.

[Mbodell]

Neither table bid 7, although the other auction had more chances as the other table has a 6♣ call instead of the 6♠ call (which then went 6♦-6♠). I like the 6♣ bid better with my hand, obviously, but I was wondering if partner could find the raise given the slam bid freely missing 3 key cards, but looks like nope.

My hand was AQJxxx KTxxx KT -.

[Fluffy]

aguahombre, on Mar 21 2010, 03:05 AM, said:

Dave's rule: Only one of us gets to blast on the same hand.

Hehe, I failed to raise this on Beijing 2008


1♠-(2♦)-X-(5♦)
6♥-(ps)-

♠x
♥AQ108xx
♦Ax
♣Qxxx


What do you think?

[mohitz]

Fluffy, on Mar 21 2010, 02:19 PM, said:

What do you think?

I am thinking why you didn't bid 2H in the first place! NFB?

[gnasher]

Mbodell, on Mar 21 2010, 08:24 AM, said:

Neither table bid 7, although the other auction had more chances as the other table has a 6♣ call instead of the 6♠ call (which then went 6♦-6♠). I like the 6♣ bid better with my hand, obviously, but I was wondering if partner could find the raise given the slam bid freely missing 3 key cards, but looks like nope.

My hand was AQJxxx KTxxx KT -.

Would you be thinking the same if he'd had K9xx Axx AQ9 10xx?

[whereagles]

Too risky to bid 7. Especially since pard didn't bid 6♣ over 5. Preempts work.

[Pict]

Looks like a winner's hand.

Who is the winner... MikeH says it's the bidders, so I'll go for 7.

[Mbodell]

gnasher, on Mar 21 2010, 01:34 AM, said:

Mbodell, on Mar 21 2010, 08:24 AM, said:

Neither table bid 7, although the other auction had more chances as the other table has a 6♣ call instead of the 6♠ call (which then went 6♦-6♠).  I like the 6♣ bid better with my hand, obviously, but I was wondering if partner could find the raise given the slam bid freely missing 3 key cards, but looks like nope.

My hand was AQJxxx KTxxx KT -.

Would you be thinking the same if he'd had K9xx Axx AQ9 10xx?

Yes, and I know switch the reds makes it a bad slam. But then again over 6♣ and switched reds I think I'd bid 7 confidently too.

[jjbrr]

pass over this. i'd bid grand over 6♣ and i dont think its close.

[Siegmund]

Pass and hope we make it.

I would've settled for a limit raise rather than 2NT on the first round opposite all but the most conservative openers.

That aside, partner had a forcing pass, 5D, 5H, 5N, 6C, 6D, or 6H to choose from if we wanted to ask my opinion about anything, and he didn't. I'd need a major surprise for partner to think about acting here.

[Fluffy]

mohitz, on Mar 21 2010, 09:00 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Mar 21 2010, 02:19 PM, said:

What do you think?

I am thinking why you didn't bid 2H in the first place! NFB?

yeah NFB, didn't play them much, I was later told that I could had bid 3♥ forcing :/.

[mikeh]

Pict, on Mar 21 2010, 04:00 PM, said:

Looks like a winner's hand. 

Who is the winner... MikeH says it's the bidders, so I'll go for 7.

Ah...to be quoted out of context

The problem is that we can deduce that partner has an interesting hand and almost certainly a void in clubs....but...he is taking a shot...which suggests a limited, gambling hand on which he expects to fail opposite an inappropriate hand. Indeed, we know from our hand that he is bidding on a wing and a prayer..what if our hand was Kxxx Qxx AQJx Kx, as one 'heavy 2N' example might be, consistent with the auction? Heck, it might not have the heart Q!

When partner makes a call that clearly hopes for a good dummy, and I have a good dummy, I pass. I need a spectacular dummy to overrule partner....there is little more discouraging than to have one partner make an optimistic bid (as in: it's a bidder's game) and have the other one raise the ante one too far.

Incidentally, if one is going to bid 6♠, rather than 6♣, is there any merit to bidding 6♥? I think if the hand were AQxxxx KQxxx Kx void it might be clearer...as it is, as one poster suggested, if 6♠ is right on any Kxxxx side suit, how is responder supposed to guess which one it is?