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## Defence over Polish-1club opening... ...and the 1diamond response

### #142

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Posted 2004-July-22, 01:43

Hi all!
I was looking for an existing thread but did not find one...
Here is my problem:
LHO opens Polish 1, your partner passes and RHO bids a negative artificial 1. What do your following bids show?

1(A) pass 1(A) ?:

1. double
2. 1NT
3. 2
4. 2?

5. What would you bid after the above mentioned sequence with

Qx
xx
AKJxx
AK10x ? Do you choose another bid without the Q?

6. In 2. position we pass with 5+ s and bid them later, 2 shows a 2-suiter, x is for t/o (=short in ) or strong, any other bid common sense. Do you agree?

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### #2Free

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Posted 2004-July-22, 03:27

The way I play it after 1-p-1-?:

Dbl = Power Dbl (15+HCP any)
1NT = Any 2 suits, like a takeout Dbl (around (10)11-14 HCP).
2 = natural
2 = natural

I probably bid 2NT or Dbl with the hand given in 5.

6. I don't agree. I'm used to play 1-2 is natural when 1 can be less than a 3-card. Here I bid my immediatly, also to disrupt their system. The way I play vs Polish 1:

Dbl = Power Dbl (15+HCP any)
1 = nat
1M = nat, 4+ card
1NT = takeout (around (10)11-14 HCP)
2 = nat, good 5+ card
2 = multi: weak in a Major (5+ card) or strong hands
2M = 5M-4+m
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### #3doofik

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Posted 2004-July-23, 06:51

Since 1 response can be natural with 7+ pts I'd suggest that a double shows both majors.
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### #4inquiry

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Posted 2004-July-23, 07:56

Want to have fun with them?

1-(P)-1-?

Dbl = transfer to , shows (weak or strong)
1 = transfer to . shows
1 = RAPTOR, shows 4 plus unknown longer minor
1NT = RAPTOR, shows 4 plus unknown longer minor
2 = 6+ or 55 or 54 (depends on guts) in majors
2 = 6+ or 5/5 in blacks
2 = 6+ or 5/5 in minors...
2 = 5/5
2NT = 5/5 in and minor
highers normal preempts

note, over 1 you might stretch and use RAPTOR 1 or 1NT with 3 card major given no other way to show clubs.. but use that with care.

The same scheme is used directly over 1 with the following exceptions.
1 - ?

DBL = clubs
1 = transfer to ,
all others as if after 1-P-1.

IF nothing else this is fun... so to answer your questions based upon this scheme...

1♣(A) pass 1♦(A) ?:
1. double --> shows
2. 1NT --> shows plus longer minor
3. 2♣ --> shows or major two suiter
4. 2♦ --> Shows or plus

♠Qx
♥xx
♦AKJxx
♣AK10x ? Do you choose another bid without the ♠Q?

I could choose between 2 showing (presumably six), 2 then pull showing 5/5 in the minors, or pass and bid later. I would need to take the vulnerablity into consideration, and rather or not it is matchpoints. But with this system I will pass now, and when they eventually bid a major, I can double back in. Partner will realize I didn't bid 1NT or 1 and work out that I am likely 5/4 or 4/4 in the minors, especially if htey bid and partner bids and I pull that.

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Posted 2004-July-23, 07:57

An option is using Truscott vs strong club:
since it says to pard which are your 2 suits, it is better suited fo auctions where there is still a constructive potential.

- a non jump bid shows the lower of 2 non touching suits
- non touching suits are shown by Double (which includes the last "suit" bid artificially by opps), or 1NT for the remaining 2 suits.
- single suiters are jump bids

- really good hands (5/5.5 losers or less if unbalanced, 17/18+ if bal) will pass 1 round then bid later
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Posted 2004-July-23, 12:26

Thx for the answers
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### #7keylime

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Posted 2004-July-23, 13:20

Our defense over ANY strong/polish club style openings:

X - majors OR minors
1D/H - transfers to H/S
1S - red OR black suits
1NT - pointed or round
2X - natural
2NT - big unspecified two-suiter
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