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#1 User is online   mike777 

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Posted 2010-March-17, 21:50

With basically any 5 card major do you try and overcall at the one level?


This means any vul, any game, direct or 4th seat.

Vandy......unfav vul......(1d)=p=(1h)=?
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:05

No. Can I play against you?
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:17

No, but it sounds like you have a particular hand in mind. Why don't you post that hand instead?
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:26

I feel like I'm in the minority, but I try to overcall aggressively at the 1 level and tend to be sound for my jump overcalls. in fact, i prefer intermediate jumps unfavorable.

So a hand like KQxxxx xx xxx xx I feel more comfortable overcalling 1 than I am overcalling a weak 2. even a 6331 hand with similar honor structure, to me, looks more like a 1 overcall.

I guess this means I try to overcall a major liberally, considering I can have very few HCP to overcall at the one level, but I certainly don't consider myself a crazy overcaller.
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:29

Mike if you look at hand records of World Champs etc, you will see that very strong players overcall pretty light. I think we have had this discussion before. That doesn't mean any 5 card suit, but its relatvely close to that.
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:33

this post is from an offhand comment by PeterGill....granted offhand.... during vugragh

that Italy overcalls with any 5 card major...


I forget the exact hand but roughly:


unfav vandy:


1d=p=1h=?




south has around:


76542
void.
KJx
Axxxx

again roughly.....
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:37

mike777, on Mar 17 2010, 11:33 PM, said:

this post is from an offhand comment by PeterGill....granted offhand.... during vugragh

that Italy overcalls with any 5 card major...


I forget the exact hand but roughly:


unfav vandy:


1d=p=1h=?




south has around:


76542
void.
KJx
Axxxx

again roughly.....

I would not overcall that hand in that position. I would expect partner to have a pretty decent hand to bid there.
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Posted 2010-March-17, 22:46

mike777, on Mar 18 2010, 11:33 AM, said:

this post is from an offhand comment by PeterGill....granted offhand.... during vugragh

that Italy overcalls with any 5 card major...


I forget the exact hand but roughly:


unfav vandy:


1d=p=1h=?




south has around:


76542
void.
KJx
Axxxx

again roughly.....

Well yes, that hand is a clear overcall. However from your op I assumed you meant that you overcall anytime you have a 5 card suit, regardless of the rest of your hand.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 01:48

When considering an overcall , there are several things to look at. Some of them are (not necessarily in this order):
1. Your strength (hcp).
2. Your shape (5332 not so good , 5530 much better).
3. The vulnerability.
4. Suit quality (of the suit you are going to overcall in).
5. Suit rank (a spade overcall is more attractive than a diamond overcall).

So , yes, Suit quality is an issue , and having a weak suit is a negative factor, but if there are other considerations that make the overcall attractive, go ahead and overcall.
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