[jdonn]

I think this is perfect (albeit a maximum) for the 3NT bid. It's designed for hands where obviously you would want to force to game but that lack the traditional high card strength. I don't think you should use it on xxxxx x xx Kxxxx despite how it is defined in the poll.

[dicklont]

3♦ Bergen limit raise.
Over 3♠ I bid game anyway.
Partner will be ok informed when he thinks about slam over the limit raise.

When I don't have Bergen: 3NT preempt with outside A/K

[the hog]

dicklont, on Mar 19 2010, 02:39 AM, said:

3♦ Bergen limit raise.
Over 3♠ I bid game anyway.
Partner will be ok informed when he thinks about slam over the limit raise.

When I don't have Bergen: 3NT preempt with outside A/K

Dick, if partner hesitates over your 3D bid and you then bid 4S, what do you think will happen? Director!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mike777]

The_Hog, on Mar 18 2010, 11:16 PM, said:

dicklont, on Mar 19 2010, 02:39 AM, said:

3♦ Bergen limit raise.
Over 3♠ I bid game anyway.
Partner will be ok informed when he thinks about slam over the limit raise.

When I don't have Bergen: 3NT preempt with outside A/K

Dick, if partner hesitates over your 3D bid and you then bid 4S, what do you think will happen? Director!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least online you can alert you are driving to game with your alert....

or driving to slam etc.....but good point.

any event I limit raise and know pard knows we are vul at imps.

[nigel_k]

If I have methods to show a limit raise with heart shortage I would definitely do that.

Otherwise I would call this a minimum splinter but I suspect many people's opening bid requirements have been eroded so it's now a normal limit raise and partner will routinely accept with something like KJxxx Qxx Axx Kx.