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Which way to play the trumps

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Posted 2010-March-15, 03:52

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Auction unopposed:

1-2(rock crushing one suiter or GF, 5+ good , 4+ decent )
2-2(confirming the / type, spade feature)
3-4(RKCB)
4N-6

Opening lead is the 2, you play the A and E drops the Q, opps play 4th highest leads, which hand are you going to play the trumps from and why ?
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Posted 2010-March-15, 04:23

South, unless East is a really good player.
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Posted 2010-March-15, 04:35

The_Hog, on Mar 15 2010, 05:23 AM, said:

South, unless East is a really good player.

Not a really good player, but somebody who's probably read books recently.

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Posted 2010-March-15, 06:23

read them or not he would have had to play it very fast and I would trust it, Q+
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Posted 2010-March-15, 07:41

Fluffy, on Mar 15 2010, 01:23 PM, said:

read them or not he would have had to play it very fast and I would trust it, Q+

Hehe a variation of the colour coup :)
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Posted 2010-March-15, 07:58

Fluffy, on Mar 15 2010, 07:23 AM, said:

read them or not he would have had to play it very fast and I would trust it, Q+

Do you really think this play is difficult ?

I'm a decent national standard player but well off being an international, and I'd be very disappointed if I didn't play the Q in tempo from QJ107xx.
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Posted 2010-March-15, 08:19

everyone plays the queen from QJ10xxx the problem is playing the queen from Q10xx

leading dummy's suit is far from standard, and I expect LHO to be searching for partner's ruff, this puts him with A singleton often, also often with singleton J/10, not to mention Ax with 6 diamonds (unlikelly, but why not?)

I haven't though this very deeply, but my experience on this type of guessing: your first instict/intuition is the best.
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Posted 2010-March-15, 12:36

LHO will never lead a diamond on this auction from Jxx, or from xxx for that matter. Diamond 2 from J10xxxx with the club ace is quite possible, as is a singleton without the club ace (singleton with the club ace seems like a very poor choice).

Given that LHO did not overcall I think it is clear to play him for a singleton. I will play a low club from dummy. If RHO hops the ace and returns a diamond I will ruff high and hope clubs split 2-2.

If RHO plays the 10 or J at trick 2 I will later finesse.
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Posted 2010-March-15, 13:46

hanp, on Mar 15 2010, 01:36 PM, said:

LHO will never lead a diamond on this auction from Jxx, or from xxx for that matter. Diamond 2 from J10xxxx with the club ace is quite possible, as is a singleton without the club ace (singleton with the club ace seems like a very poor choice).

Given that LHO did not overcall I think it is clear to play him for a singleton. I will play a low club from dummy. If RHO hops the ace and returns a diamond I will ruff high and hope clubs split 2-2.

If RHO plays the 10 or J at trick 2 I will later finesse.

My sort of feeling is what your first paragraph says, a diamond would never be led from 2, 3 or 4, and that the leader would have 1, 5 or 6.

I sat here and watched my partner play it, but I think I'd have done things the opposite way to him, will canvass some more opinions before I reveal what was going on.
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Posted 2010-March-15, 15:28

Diamond length without the club ace would be strange (partner didn't double) and with the club ace it would be an overcall. I'm still going with 1.
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Posted 2010-March-17, 09:10

No recent traffic so I'll reveal what was going on.

The lead of the 2 was indeed from J10xxxx with a stiff ace of clubs. Congratulations to anybody who crossed to hand to lead a club.
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