[PhantomSac]

Fluffy, on Mar 8 2010, 12:20 PM, said:

cloa513, on Mar 8 2010, 12:46 PM, said:

What about using 5♣ as two suit in minors, more likely than a natural 5♣.

well, nobody cares about me saying so, but I insist , for your 2 suiter to be worth showing at the 5 level opposite a 1 suiter overcall, it needs to be very extreme, like 6-6. For a 5 club natural bid to be ok you require much less.

agree

[aguahombre]

The "either/or" 4NT is great. Best of both worlds. Actually all three worlds, because with the slammish heart hands, partner gets to make the last mistake.

[whereagles]

aguahombre, on Mar 8 2010, 06:00 PM, said:

The "either/or" 4NT is great.

Especially when opener takes the push to 5♠, leaving overcaller totally in the dark as to what to do...

/irony OFF

[kenberg]

whereagles, on Mar 8 2010, 02:51 PM, said:

aguahombre, on Mar 8 2010, 06:00 PM, said:

The "either/or" 4NT is great.

Especially when opener takes the push to 5♠, leaving overcaller totally in the dark as to what to do...

/irony OFF

No problem, he does either this or that Or possibly something else.

[whereagles]

that will become my canonical definition of "clear as mud"

[aguahombre]

whereagles, on Mar 8 2010, 04:39 PM, said:

that will become my canonical definition of "clear as mud"

Yes, about as clear as your "ELC" double of 3C with 0-4-6-3 planning an insufficient diamond bid if partner bids spades?

[whereagles]

what are you talking about? that's the clearest bid in every book, EVAH.

[jdonn]

Maybe E doesn't stand for what I thought it did.

[aguahombre]

it used to stand for "equal". Hence the comment about the plan to make an insufficient bid of diamonds over spades. But this was all on a different string

[kenberg]

Equal Level Conversion refers to going from Presbyterian to Methodist.

[aguahombre]

No, that is a switch ---"PMS."