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Insane? JEC hand

#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2010-March-04, 15:50

Scoring: IMP

(2♣)-2♦-(Dbl)
2♥-2N
3♣-4♦
4♥-4N
5♥-7♣
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2♣ was 5+♣, 10-15HCP no 4cM... you intervened with 2-only-diamonds.
Double relayed to 2♥ I think.
2NT was another relay, 3♣ showed 6 clubs??
4♦ was a splinter. 4NT asked keycards and opener showed 2, no Q.
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Posted 2010-March-04, 15:54

kfay, on Mar 4 2010, 09:50 PM, said:

Insane?

Yes
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Posted 2010-March-04, 15:56

A top diamond. I don't think any lead would be insane.
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Posted 2010-March-04, 15:56

If the question is whether it is insane to act over 7♣, the answer is yes.
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Posted 2010-March-04, 15:57

If you trust your opponents and trust your team mates, 7C was making. Then it just becomes a math problem, how many down will 7D be. If this 7 card suit can manage 6 tricks, then it is a win. If it can manage 7 tricks, then it is a bigger gain.

I must say that I would probably not have the presence of mind to figure this out at a table, red v red.
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Posted 2010-March-04, 15:57

The guy who bid keycard with a diamond void is also insane. Unless he bid grand off the ♦A... also insane.
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Posted 2010-March-04, 16:32

Lead C2. Maybe 1 less D-ruff kills this grand.
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Posted 2010-March-04, 16:47

I have a rule to always lead my ace versus grands. I'd rather not be the guy that let a grand make because he didn't. Besides how many stories have we all heard of exclusion being psyched and things like that?
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Posted 2010-March-04, 17:00

Lastime I saw a splinter followed by 4NT when partner cued it was in the NEC, my teammate assumed that cue after splinter denied any honnor in the suit splintered and played slam with ♣Ax opposite void, and 2 prime aces missing for -13 IMPs.

I haven't watched the JEC matches more than twice in my life, but I have heard many histories about cheating there, I dunno if they are true but this hand wouldn't smell very well to me (depends on who the opponets are).
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Posted 2010-March-04, 17:40

peachy, on Mar 4 2010, 04:57 PM, said:

If you trust your opponents and trust your team mates, 7C was making.  Then it just becomes a math problem, how many down will 7D be.  If this 7 card suit can manage 6 tricks, then it is a win.  If it can manage 7 tricks, then it is a bigger gain. 

I must say that I would probably not have the presence of mind to figure this out at a table, red v red.

Sometimes they bid grands that are not 100 % and they go down.

FWIW if you even hesitate about saving you will be marked with no defense and any finesse they have to take will go through partner.
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