[ochinko]

Imps, all red. Partner deals, and opens 1♦. RHO overcalls 1♥. This is your hand:

Scoring: IMP

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Let's say that you pass hoping partner will reopen with a double. LHO passes but partner bids 2♦ instead. What do you do now? Would your answer be different if parner has reopened with 1♠?

1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
2♦ - (Pass) - ?

[helene_t]

I bid 2NT. I think we have had a discussion long time ago about what 2♥ would mean, but whatever it means my hand doesn't qualify. Too weak for a forcing 2♥ and too few/bad hearts for a nonforcing 2♥.

If p bids 1♠ I still bid 2NT, as 1NT would be like 6-7 points.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I am not sure, I would have passed, but Pass is certainly
reasonable, and the alternatives are not breathtaking anyway,
as it is, Pass worked out.

Now - I would bid 3D, this should show an inv. hand with heart
values, why would I have passed otherwise.
1S I bid a heavy 1NT, the difference is, that after1S I dont know,
we have a fit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Codo]

I had bid 1 NT first round and been done with it.

And sorry, I have no idea what to do now: I can underbid by passing overbid with 2 NT or misbid with 3 ♦. I choose the smallest lie and bid 2 NT.

But as I have no good bid now, I had not passed first round.

Maybe it is just me, but how often can you defend 1 any doubled and be lucky with it? Here, you have 2 Heart tricks and an ace- they may even had make it....

[irincheto]

Hello,

I would definitely pass first time and second time. First time - hoping that partner would reopen with double (even 1 down with double would be better than struggling to make 1NT). Second time: p bid 2 ♦ (nonforcing bid), in the best of cases he can have 6 card ♦ and 14 ponts. I really cannot see what we can make other then 3 ♦ maybe.

Kind regards,
Irina

[jjbrr]

irincheto, on Mar 3 2010, 08:43 AM, said:

Hello,

I would definitely pass first time and second time. First time - hoping that partner would reopen with double (even 1 down with double would be better than struggling to make 1NT). Second time: p bid 2 ♦ (nonforcing bid), in the best of cases he can have 6 card ♦ and 14 ponts. I really cannot see what we can make other then 3 ♦ maybe.

Kind regards,
Irina

I think it's wrong to call partner's 2♦ a "nonforcing bid." Partner is bidding despite your lack of action earlier, which means you could have 0HCP in your hand. Obviously that's unlikely in the context of this auction, but you still have 2 aces (one of which is Ax in partner's suit) more than you promised already. That's a HUGE hand and passing is very likely going to result in missing game. I disagree that he is limited to either 6♦ or 14 HCP.

With that said, I would have overcalled 1NT originally and raised 2♦ to 3 if partner rebid his ♦.

[pooltuna]

jjbrr, on Mar 3 2010, 10:19 AM, said:

irincheto, on Mar 3 2010, 08:43 AM, said:

Hello,

I would definitely pass first time and second time. First time  - hoping that partner would reopen with double (even 1 down with double would be better than struggling to make 1NT). Second time: p bid 2 ♦ (nonforcing bid), in the best of cases he can have 6 card ♦ and 14 ponts. I really cannot see what we can make other then 3 ♦ maybe.

Kind regards,
Irina

I think it's wrong to call partner's 2♦ a "nonforcing bid." Partner is bidding despite your lack of action earlier, which means you could have 0HCP in your hand. Obviously that's unlikely in the context of this auction, but you still have 2 aces (one of which is Ax in partner's suit) more than you promised already. That's a HUGE hand and passing is very likely going to result in missing game. I disagree that he is limited to either 6♦ or 14 HCP.

With that said, I would have overcalled 1NT originally and raised 2♦ to 3 if partner rebid his ♦.

I vote with the party hat

[jjbrr]

It's a tiny feline sombrero imo

[rogerclee]

Um, I bid game.

[jdonn]

I'm worried about spades. Partner didn't double or bid 1♠ and while he doesn't have to be weak there I think it's likely. But definitely I wouldn't pass. 2NT seems fine, I don't really hate 3♦ either actually. In either case he can investigate more if he is worried too.

[PhantomSac]

I agree with the first pass, but it's pretty marginal probably. The 987 of hearts are great, aces are great, shortness in partners suit is great, and jacks usually help. Plus they are vul, plus 10 HCP is the magic number where we usually don't have a game, but often get 500.

Bidding 1N first would also be ok though, and without those great heart spots would be automatic.

Over 2D we must make a move. 3D could be much weaker imo so that should not be an option. I like the idea of getting partner to declare, and also showing a diamond raise rather than bidding NT, because we are 100 % to get a spade lead if we just jump to 3N or even if we bid 2N (since we've shown a trap pass of hearts).

So I'd start with 2H, planning to raise 2N to 3N, and pass 3D, or bid 3D over 2S, not sure over 3C but something epic.

Edit:

The more I think about it the more I dislike 2N. If we have a partscore, 3D will for sure be better than 2N. If we have a game 2H and 2N should both get us there, with 2H possibly rightsiding it for us (or wrongsiding, but I'd guess Jx is the wrongside on this hand though it is often the right side).

Also I would bid 3D with Qxx xxxx Kxx Kxx routinely as I think everyone would, and I probably would with a slightly weaker hand, so that is why this hand is way too heavy for 3D.

[pooltuna]

over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
instead of pass I bid 1NT


over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
2♦ - (Pass) - ?
I try 3♦

[jjbrr]

pooltuna, on Mar 4 2010, 07:42 AM, said:

over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
instead of pass I bid 1NT


over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
2♦ - (Pass) - ?
I try 3♦

Having thought about it a little, does anyone like 2♥ with this hand if the auction goes 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (p) 2♦ (p) ?

[jdonn]

jjbrr, on Mar 4 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Mar 4 2010, 07:42 AM, said:

over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
instead of pass I bid 1NT


over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
2♦ - (Pass) - ?
I try 3♦

Having thought about it a little, does anyone like 2♥ with this hand if the auction goes 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (p) 2♦ (p) ?

That seems like a good bid.

[pooltuna]

jdonn, on Mar 4 2010, 11:16 AM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 4 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Mar 4 2010, 07:42 AM, said:

over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
instead of pass I bid 1NT


over
1♦ - (1♥) - Pass - (Pass)
2♦ - (Pass) - ?
I try 3♦

Having thought about it a little, does anyone like 2♥ with this hand if the auction goes 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (p) 2♦ (p) ?

That seems like a good bid.

I'm not sure what a 2♥ call is intended to show unless it is meant to expose a psyche

[jjbrr]

I think ideally I'd want it to have a third ♦, but I was hoping it would should a good ♦ raise. Better than 3♦.

[pooltuna]

jjbrr, on Mar 4 2010, 01:42 PM, said:

I think ideally I'd want it to have a third ♦, but I was hoping it would should a good ♦ raise. Better than 3♦.

I would expect a 2♦ rebid to show six on this auction ( or maybe a really good 5) and having already limited my hand and shown a [probably good] ♥ stopper with 1NT a three ♦ raise is protection against partner having to bid 2♦ with a nearly 3♦ raise.

[jjbrr]

pooltuna, on Mar 4 2010, 01:50 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 4 2010, 01:42 PM, said:

I think ideally I'd want it to have a third ♦, but I was hoping it would should a good ♦ raise. Better than 3♦.

I would expect a 2♦ rebid to show six on this auction ( or maybe a really good 5) and having already limited my hand and shown a [probably good] ♥ stopper with 1NT a three ♦ raise is protection against partner having to bid 2♦ with a nearly 3♦ raise.

Right. And 2♥ is protection against us having the same tricks in 3♦ as we do in NT. Or us having the same tricks in 5♦ as we would in 3♦, but I think that's a little less likely.