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How to get to 3NT
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Posted 2010-February-24, 13:36
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Posted 2010-February-24, 13:44
I think most people who play negative freebids also play a jump to 3D as a strong GF 1 suiter so that X then diamonds is more like 5 diamonds and a GF, not sure though I've never played negative freebids.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 13:44
Yeh, people who play Non forcing freebids use the Neg double with game forcing values and a single suit. When they later bid their suit a game force is established. In this case you might never mention the diamonds.
1H (1s) X (P)
1N (P) 3NT
1H (1s) X (P)
1N (P) 3NT
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Posted 2010-February-24, 14:40
Double then cue-bid to ask for a stopper.
Of course this means that your double can't promise an unbid major. (Even if that doesnt apply on this auction)
Of course this means that your double can't promise an unbid major. (Even if that doesnt apply on this auction)
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Posted 2010-February-24, 14:42
PhantomSac, on Feb 25 2010, 08:44 AM, said:
I think most people who play negative freebids also play a jump to 3D as a strong GF 1 suiter so that X then diamonds is more like 5 diamonds and a GF, not sure though I've never played negative freebids.
That is pretty much exactly what I play.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2010-February-24, 15:15
What's 3♠? Is it a Western cue asking pd to bid 3N with a stopper, or a splinter in support of ♥?
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Posted 2010-February-24, 15:16
Cascade, on Feb 24 2010, 03:40 PM, said:
Double then cue-bid to ask for a stopper.
Of course this means that your double can't promise an unbid major. (Even if that doesnt apply on this auction)
Of course this means that your double can't promise an unbid major. (Even if that doesnt apply on this auction)
ditto.
btw keep in mind if you play negative free bids then any new suit by responder after x is game forcing.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 15:26
barmar, on Feb 24 2010, 04:15 PM, said:
What's 3♠? Is it a Western cue asking pd to bid 3N with a stopper, or a splinter in support of ♥?
Should def be a splinter, mainly because what hand can make a western cue? You don't know enough about partners hand. I mean with this hand for instance you could easily be cold for 7D or belong in hearts or in 5D or even in clubs or whatever, so you're better off just describing your hand (AKA bidding your suit).
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Posted 2010-February-24, 15:28
you can either double and have aquahombre's auction, or a faster 3♦->3NT one.
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How do we get to 3NT after North opens 1♥, 1♠ overcall? If 2♦ is not forcing, and 2♠ promises support, how do you force or ask for a stopper in this situation?
Thanks everyone.