New partnership. Partner opens 2N (20-21) and I have
ATxxx KJ98x xx x
I chose 3H, then 5H. Partner corrected to 5S with
Kx Qx AQxxx AKQx
Was I unlucky or did I bid too much?
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2N vs 5/5 majors
#2
Posted 2010-February-18, 15:17
SOmewhat unlucky in a practical auction. But, that's the common refrain for those who end up at the Binsky Level.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."
-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
#4
Posted 2010-February-18, 18:31
straube, on Feb 18 2010, 04:12 PM, said:
New partnership. Partner opens 2N (20-21) and I have
ATxxx KJ98x xx x
I chose 3H, then 5H. Partner corrected to 5S with
Kx Qx AQxxx AKQx
Was I unlucky or did I bid too much?
ATxxx KJ98x xx x
I chose 3H, then 5H. Partner corrected to 5S with
Kx Qx AQxxx AKQx
Was I unlucky or did I bid too much?
Pretty unlucky, especially catching a 2-2 major suit holding opposite. Maybe it's best to bid Stayman and only make a slam try if partner has a 4 card major simply because you can control that auction, but there are plenty of hands where a 5-3 fit could produce a laydown slam.
Wonder if anyone has the agreement to transfer to hearts first and then bid spades with a 5/5 over 2NT. The space consumption might be worth more than the ability to show a 4-6-x-x or 5-6-x-x hand, which can't come up much.
#5
Posted 2010-February-18, 18:52
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Wonder if anyone has the agreement to transfer to hearts first and then bid spades with a 5/5 over 2NT. The space consumption might be worth more than the ability to show a 4-6-x-x or 5-6-x-x hand, which can't come up much.
You need to work out proir sequences for 4/5, 5/4, 5/5, 4/6 and 6/4 ... rather than try to compose them on-the-fly .
Also, it makes a difference if you play Puppet or not.
One simple was for a 5/5 might be:
2NT - 3H! ( simple transfer )
3S - 4D! ( Texas transfer )
4H/4S - ??
This way Opener selects his best Major and if you are deemed strong enough,
you could go 4NT ( RKC ) or make a 5-level cuebid.... or a 5-of-trump bid.
Here, Opener's unlikely 2-2 in the Majors is unlucky.
Don Stenmark ( TWOferBRIDGE )
#6
Posted 2010-February-18, 18:58
Actually, the idea for handling 5-5 slam tries via transfer then 3♠ makes a ton of sense.
2NT-p-3♦-P-
At this juncture, Responder gets to hear possible super-acceptances for hearts. If not...
3♥-P-3♠-P-
Here, again, Responder gets to hear about possible super-acceptances with four spades or with three hearts (4♣ power flag of hearts, 4♦ power flag of spades). If not...
3NT-p-4♠-P-
At this point, Responder gets to show the 5-5 holding, but the auction can stop in theory at 4♠, which is a bonus. As Opener already denied three hearts, he assuredly has a fit for spades, unless he is 2-2 in the majors, with which he will pass IF the partnership undertsnads that this sequence shows a slammish 5-5.
2NT-p-3♦-P-
At this juncture, Responder gets to hear possible super-acceptances for hearts. If not...
3♥-P-3♠-P-
Here, again, Responder gets to hear about possible super-acceptances with four spades or with three hearts (4♣ power flag of hearts, 4♦ power flag of spades). If not...
3NT-p-4♠-P-
At this point, Responder gets to show the 5-5 holding, but the auction can stop in theory at 4♠, which is a bonus. As Opener already denied three hearts, he assuredly has a fit for spades, unless he is 2-2 in the majors, with which he will pass IF the partnership undertsnads that this sequence shows a slammish 5-5.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."
-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
#7
Posted 2010-February-18, 19:48
A bit unlucky if you haven't agreed a way to show this hand. One of partner's diamonds = ten of hearts one time!
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
#8
Posted 2010-February-18, 20:35
I think if I had to do it over again, I'd choose the 3D transfer and 3S rebid. I might miss a 3-card spade fit but I won't have to risk the 5-level. We had a 5-1 split, too
#9
Posted 2010-February-21, 02:38
Unlucky. Statistically, a classic 2NT opening has 6 cover cards and you have 7 losers. Hence, 12 tricks are rightly expectable.
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