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#1 User is offline   dicklont 

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Posted 2010-February-17, 18:39

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Partner opens 1♣ and RHO bids 4♥.
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Posted 2010-February-17, 19:21

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Posted 2010-February-17, 19:43

I'm going with the passive heart. Our side isn't getting any ruffs anyway. Let him quietly go down one or two leading stuff out of his hand rather than me taking a finesse for him.

I am fully prepared to be very wrong - there are hands where the attacking D or S lead is needed, but I'm speculating they are outnumbered by the hands where 4♥ dies of natural causes.
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Posted 2010-February-17, 19:44

There are 10 other cards i'd rather lead than a heart.

(I'd also lead the ♦J, though the ♣A could be better.)
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Posted 2010-February-17, 19:44

Sold on jack of diamonds. Agree with heart being last choice.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 02:41

♠, although ♦J may just be fine too. ♥ is realy realy realy awful!
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Posted 2010-February-18, 04:07

I would lead a club. Haven't been able to work out why I shouldn't.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 04:31

enlighten me, why is a heart so awful?
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Posted 2010-February-18, 04:45

♠6. My name is MUD. Mumumumu, mud.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2010-February-18, 07:03

I have good D so I lead one, the J which for me covers choices 1 through 12.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 07:11

Fluffy, on Feb 18 2010, 01:31 PM, said:

enlighten me, why is a heart so awful?

I would say that the risk of giving RHO a free finesse far outweighs the gains from killing a (potential) ruff in dummy.

I would probably lead a Spade.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 18:43

A diamond and I hate everything else. I also agree with a heart being the last choice. Being on lead is a powerful weapon for the defence and you should take every advantage from it as it gives you tempo. A trump lead after this auction just gives that up and you don't let declarer exhaust any entries in dummy if he wants to take a hook.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 18:49

andy_h, on Feb 18 2010, 07:43 PM, said:

A diamond and I hate everything else. I also agree with a heart being the last choice. Being on lead is a powerful weapon for the defence and you should take every advantage from it as it gives you tempo. A trump lead after this auction just gives that up and you don't let declarer exhaust any entries in dummy if he wants to take a hook.

Agree, jack of diamonds as best attacking choice.

Heart seems way too passive. Don't like spade for similar reasons. Don't like clubs because of the ace.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 19:54

Fluffy, on Feb 18 2010, 05:31 AM, said:

enlighten me, why is a heart so awful?

Against preempts, tempo is crucial! Tempo is crucial when declarer can pitch losers in one of his short suit on dummy's winners in his other short suit. When he preempts, he often has 2 fairly short suits! In fact some like to lead aces against preempts for that reason. This is much more of a concern than giving him a free heart finesse IMO.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 20:16

never mind
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Posted 2010-February-19, 09:02

jdonn, on Feb 17 2010, 08:44 PM, said:

Sold on jack of diamonds. Agree with heart being last choice.

But if you don't lead a ♥ how are you going to finesse partner's Kx♥ when dummy has no entry? :)

I also have a preference for ♦J
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Posted 2010-February-19, 09:34

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Both tables lead ♣A.
At the other table it was less of a disaster, they played in 3♥.
Unlucky?
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Posted 2010-February-19, 09:50

dicklont, on Feb 19 2010, 10:34 AM, said:

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Both tables lead ♣A.
At the other table it was less of a disaster, they played in 3♥.
Unlucky?

the J♦ is just a better choice IMO in this auction as the A♣ requires partner to hold the ♣K while the ♦ rates to work if partner has either the A or the Q
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Posted 2010-February-19, 14:29

Unlucky? No way, this is what you ask for when leading Aces in partner's suit when RHO preempted...
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Posted 2010-February-19, 15:55

Still club Ace for me. Well done to the successful diamond leaders.

Declarer had a club void, dummy had KQ, partner had diamond Q. Are there any other possible layouts?
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