[precpj]

holding KXXX QXX XX AJXX

the bidding went RHO 1D pass pass X XX ?

is 2S weak by me ?

is 1S forcing ?

a reminder after the balancing X my hand went up in value

Precpj

[ArtK78]

This is not the same as 1x - x - xx - ? where fourth hand is assumed to be weak and a jump bid is preemptive.

A simple bid is just that - a simple bid. It is not forcing.

A jump bid is strong. It is also not forcing.

Pass is for penalties, as it would have been without the redouble. You cannot let the redouble change your ability to pass out 1♦x.

A cue bid is the only forcing bid.

[Old York]

Your only forcing option seems to be to bid the enemy suit, but you could also pass.
The re-double seems odd and can serve no purpose?

Partner's 4th seat double could be quite weak, but I would treat a jump to 2♠ as invitational

Tony

[spotlight7]

Hi:

The XX should be strong in most methods, but on bbo it might be almost anything including an attempt at self rescue with weak diamonds.

I use the XX to show something about 18+ with strong diamonds. Partner is invited to use the red card or support Ds if he sees fit.

1S is not forcing and 2S would not be forcing without the double so it should not be forcing here.

Why would you want to force? A reopening double can be much weaker than a direct double. Many freely double with 10+ here and one Italian style is to double with 8-12 or 16+(they use the next step up to show 13-15)

If the XX shows A AK AK or a somewhat better hand, why do you want to force?
Do you really want to force partner to bid higher than 2S with say 10HCP and three card spade support?

Your hand does have better positional value, however, partners' hand value likely went down in value if the XXer has an 18+ holding with mostly AK values.

A number of recent bidding problems have shown hands with @20-21 opening at the one level.
If this hand is one of them, you do not want to force partner to bid higher than 2Ss.

Regards,
Robert

[wank]

forcing would be ridiculous.

2S would be marginally excessive imo

1S and make a take-out double later if an opportunity presents itself

[aguahombre]

Using "add a King" (balancer), "subtract a King" (advancer), we have ten, minus 3=7. 1S. the redouble doesn't change anything.

[jdonn]

Kill previous post I saw the auction wrong. I think 1♠ is fine then try to compete later.

[peachy]

precpj, on Feb 17 2010, 08:41 AM, said:

holding KXXX QXX XX AJXX

the bidding went RHO 1D pass pass X XX ?

is 2S weak by me ?

is 1S forcing ?

a reminder after the balancing X my hand went up in value

Precpj

No, 2S is not weak, it is around 9+ good and 4+ card spades in response to a direct seat takeout double (not the case here) and about 12 opposite balancing seat takeout double. And No, 1S is not forcing. The hand went up in value but balancing seat should not be punished for balancing, I bid 1S.

[the hog]

Bid 1S. The auction will not end.

[aguahombre]

The_Hog, on Feb 17 2010, 05:07 PM, said:

Bid 1S. The auction will not end.

and we don't care if it does.