Here's the bidding sequence (opps passing):
1♣ - 1♥
1♠ - 2♦
2♥ - 2NT
3♣ - 3♠
4♣ - ?
Partner was asking whether my 2nd round control was x or Kx(x), and my holding was EXACTLY ♣K . 4♦ would have shown x, 4♥ would have shown Kx(x), and 4♠ had no meaning (as I am relatively new to Precision, I figured partner would think I had forgotten what 4♣ was). Now, we have decided that the 3rd step to a CAB rebid would show exactly K singleton in this situation, but at the time I just winged it and showed the King. So if it happens again with a different partner, should I show the King, or show the shortage?
Oh yeah, 7♥ was bid and was cold, as partner held ♣AQ103 and RHO held Jxx!
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CAB rebid question
#1
Posted 2010-February-14, 23:42
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#2
Posted 2010-February-15, 02:55
I don't know what is "standard". But I think most of the time you should show the K here as it is more likely to both fill in your partner's honor sequences (as it did here) and/or help partner not place too many of your points in other suits (He has the x of clubs so he must have the K of ♦ to give him enough for his positive).
#3
Posted 2010-February-15, 05:59
I haven't played CABs for quite awhile, but as I remember them a two-tiered structure works well...
Responses to the initial ask: none/third/second/first/first & second
Responses to the reask: length/strength/both
So in this example, S3/reask shows the singleton king.
Responses to the initial ask: none/third/second/first/first & second
Responses to the reask: length/strength/both
So in this example, S3/reask shows the singleton king.
#4
Posted 2010-February-15, 12:59
I play a symmetric type of CAB responses:
Step 1: none
Step 2: King
Step 3: Ace
Step 4: Void
Step 5: Singleton
Step 6: AK/AQ
Step 1: none
Step 2: King
Step 3: Ace
Step 4: Void
Step 5: Singleton
Step 6: AK/AQ
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#5
Posted 2010-February-15, 19:01
bigtrain, on Feb 15 2010, 06:59 AM, said:
I haven't played CABs for quite awhile, but as I remember them a two-tiered structure works well...
Responses to the initial ask: none/third/second/first/first & second
Responses to the reask: length/strength/both
So in this example, S3/reask shows the singleton king.
Responses to the initial ask: none/third/second/first/first & second
Responses to the reask: length/strength/both
So in this example, S3/reask shows the singleton king.
I use a two-tiered system as well. The initial ask was 3♣, and all possible responses are below:
3♦ = No control at all
3♥ = Third Round Control (Qxx or xx)
3♠ = Second Round Control (Kx or x)
3NT = First Round Control (A or voild)
4♣ = First and Second Round Control (AK or AQ)
Bidding 4♣ asks what my Second Round Control was. However it only has TWO steps (at least how I first learned it):
4♦ = Shortness
4♥ = King
After the hand, I realized that there should be a 3rd step, which shows both. If you don't have that third step though, do you show the length, or show the strength? I showed the strength, and in this case it payed off. I just want other people's opinions on what to do if the situation happens again.
"It's not enough to win the tricks that belong to you. Try also for some that belong to the opponents."
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
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