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Poll: Your rebid is... (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Your rebid is...

  1. Pass (15 votes [75.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  2. 2C (5 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  3. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Poky 

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Posted 2004-July-16, 02:45

MP. All vul.

Q1093
10
AQ76
AK98

1 - 1
1 - 1NT
???

Does your rebid depen of MP/IMP scoring?
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Posted 2004-July-16, 03:29

Poky, on Jul 16 2004, 03:45 AM, said:

Does your rebid depen of MP/IMP scoring?

Maybe. At IMPs, I wouldn't hesitate about 2. It also depends on the system we are playing. If 1 is limited, I must show my extras now.
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Posted 2004-July-16, 03:30

Pass and hope pard can make 1NT. At imps you might try 2, but only if you're sure pard won't get over-excited about it.
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Posted 2004-July-16, 03:52

2C.. partner is 3424 or 2524 or something like that.. the main reason is, it seems too early to give up on game, tho i might pass at mp
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Posted 2004-July-16, 04:39

We don't have a fit in a Major, and I'm not fond of 5m in MP tourneys. 3NT won't make imo, so don't even try... P will bid 3NT with 8 HCP, and you're 2 HCP short, no usable long suit, misfits, and probably not much communication. Suits won't split nice since we have a singleton. Pass!
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Posted 2004-July-16, 04:58

I've voted for 2. I have a nice, shapely hand, which I can describe. It is not invitational, but surely promises some extras: which I do happen to have.

The only time when 2 is wrong is when 1nt scores 120, and in clubs we do not make 130.
However, unless partner has 2533, we have fit in a minor, or a nice Moysian in spades.

The heart suit can be very vulnerable in a vulnerable NT. So if partner did respond with a minimum, I am for a sure 2m(+1) rather than 1nt-1 (opps may easily take 4-6 majors and 1-3 minors).
Even if 1nt makes, I will make an overtrick in 2m, or make 2S.

Partner will not bid on with useless honors in hearts - he will know that they are of no use for me . Opposite Kx xxxx Kx Qxxxx, or even Kx Axxx xx BTxxx, however, I have a great chance to make 11 tricks in C.

I do think my holdings scream for a suit contract (well, except for my spade suit...)
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Posted 2004-July-16, 07:05

Poky, on Jul 16 2004, 04:45 AM, said:

Does your rebid depen of MP/IMP scoring?

Absolutely, my rebid depends upon rather we are playing imps or matchpoints.

At imps vulnerable, there is no way am I going to pass. I will have to make a game try despite the fact that my partner didn't jump to 2NT (invitiational). So at imps, I think I would bid 2. If partner has a little extra he will take another call. At matchpoints, however, I am rather content to try for a plus in 1NT. So I will pass.

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Posted 2004-July-16, 07:08

2 at IMPs looks clear.
Pass at MPs.
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Posted 2004-July-16, 07:08

Pass
Let's see... We have 21-24 hcp and no major suit fit. Might even be a misfit (if partner is 3433 or 3532 or similar). Sure, let's go exploring and end up in 2N or 3m on a weak misfit.

Why not pass and surprise partner that we actually leave partner in a makeable contract
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Posted 2004-July-16, 07:11

No vote in here, I´ve got a NT range with all those 10/9 and I am gonna bid 3
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Posted 2004-July-16, 07:12

Pass. No game anywhere and no reason to fear a heart lead into partners suit unless opening leader is solid. 1N will outscore 2m whenever partner has some points in hearts and at least some of the time when he doesn't. And can't partner be 2-5-3-3 on this sequence? In which case the Moysian minor fit isn't so attractive.

I also pass at IMPs.

All of the above assumes 2/1 or SAYC. In the version of Precision I play, responder will have at least 8 points in this seqeunce and may have 11-12, so my hand is worth a game try--I bid 2N.
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Posted 2004-July-16, 11:54

Playing standard methods I pass at all forms of scoring. Bidding 2 will most likely result in a 2NT contract. Ugh.
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Posted 2004-July-16, 15:00

I pass at MP's. We have fantastic intermediates, and +120 to +180 looks like a nice MP result here.

At IMPs (vul); I think the hand is too good for 2. You'd make the same bid with a boring 10-11 count with 4054 or the like. This hand looks like a great candidate for a Meckwell 3NT - even on a 23 count, especially if pard holds some nice intermediates in the heart suit.

IMPs NV, I'm a little torn between 2 and 3, since I'm trying to encourage pard, but find the best partial too.
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Posted 2004-July-17, 18:15

I pass.

I think bidding will get you to a lot of poor games.

Here is a fairly ordinary hand that partner might have that would accept a game try. There is a lot of work for 3NT.

Kxx
Axxxx
xx
Qxx

I think it is too easy to construct similar examples are relatively hard to construct examples where 3NT is a favourite.
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Posted 2004-July-17, 18:42

3NT is too far to try at mp, so i would pass.
At imp 2c would show the hand perfectly and i would bid it.
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