Invite or not?
#1
Posted 2004-July-16, 02:45
♠Q1093
♥10
♦AQ76
♣AK98
1♦ - 1♥
1♠ - 1NT
???
Does your rebid depen of MP/IMP scoring?
#2
Posted 2004-July-16, 03:29
Poky, on Jul 16 2004, 03:45 AM, said:
Maybe. At IMPs, I wouldn't hesitate about 2♣. It also depends on the system we are playing. If 1♦ is limited, I must show my extras now.
#3
Posted 2004-July-16, 03:30
#4
Posted 2004-July-16, 03:52
#5
Posted 2004-July-16, 04:39
#6
Posted 2004-July-16, 04:58
The only time when 2♣ is wrong is when 1nt scores 120, and in clubs we do not make 130.
However, unless partner has 2533, we have fit in a minor, or a nice Moysian in spades.
The heart suit can be very vulnerable in a vulnerable NT. So if partner did respond with a minimum, I am for a sure 2m(+1) rather than 1nt-1 (opps may easily take 4-6 majors and 1-3 minors).
Even if 1nt makes, I will make an overtrick in 2m, or make 2S.
Partner will not bid on with useless honors in hearts - he will know that they are of no use for me . Opposite Kx xxxx Kx Qxxxx, or even Kx Axxx xx BTxxx, however, I have a great chance to make 11 tricks in C.
I do think my holdings scream for a suit contract (well, except for my spade suit...)
#7
Posted 2004-July-16, 07:05
Poky, on Jul 16 2004, 04:45 AM, said:
Absolutely, my rebid depends upon rather we are playing imps or matchpoints.
At imps vulnerable, there is no way am I going to pass. I will have to make a game try despite the fact that my partner didn't jump to 2NT (invitiational). So at imps, I think I would bid 2♣. If partner has a little extra he will take another call. At matchpoints, however, I am rather content to try for a plus in 1NT. So I will pass.
Ben
#9
Posted 2004-July-16, 07:08
Let's see... We have 21-24 hcp and no major suit fit. Might even be a misfit (if partner is 3433 or 3532 or similar). Sure, let's go exploring and end up in 2N or 3m on a weak misfit.
Why not pass and surprise partner that we actually leave partner in a makeable contract
#10
Posted 2004-July-16, 07:11
#11
Posted 2004-July-16, 07:12
I also pass at IMPs.
All of the above assumes 2/1 or SAYC. In the version of Precision I play, responder will have at least 8 points in this seqeunce and may have 11-12, so my hand is worth a game try--I bid 2N.
#12
Posted 2004-July-16, 11:54
#13
Posted 2004-July-16, 15:00
At IMPs (vul); I think the hand is too good for 2♣. You'd make the same bid with a boring 10-11 count with 4054 or the like. This hand looks like a great candidate for a Meckwell 3NT - even on a 23 count, especially if pard holds some nice intermediates in the heart suit.
IMPs NV, I'm a little torn between 2♣ and 3♣, since I'm trying to encourage pard, but find the best partial too.
#14
Posted 2004-July-17, 18:15
I think bidding will get you to a lot of poor games.
Here is a fairly ordinary hand that partner might have that would accept a game try. There is a lot of work for 3NT.
Kxx
Axxxx
xx
Qxx
I think it is too easy to construct similar examples are relatively hard to construct examples where 3NT is a favourite.
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#15
Posted 2004-July-17, 18:42
At imp 2c would show the hand perfectly and i would bid it.

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