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#1 User is offline   Free 

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Posted 2010-February-08, 03:17

Problem I had this weekend. It was the 3rd time we played together.

You hold:
Scoring: IMP


The auction starts:
1♣ - pass - 1♦ - 1♥
2♠ - pass - 3♥ - pass
3NT - pass - ???

What do you do now? If you don't pass, what do you expect partner to do?
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Posted 2010-February-08, 03:37

Since you did not state, that 3♥ asked for ♥ stopper, I don't think that 3NT guarantees/promises a stopper in ♥.
So I guess I chicken out to 4♦.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 04:32

I PASS no second choice.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 04:40

Pass.

I was asking for a heart stopper, p showed one.
The only real question is, if I should look for 6, but we
have basically just 30HCP between us, no real fit, so I
would say going quitely is best, since I dont know p
very well.

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Posted 2010-February-08, 04:54

To me 2 spade had shown 6-5 and is gameforcing. So I had bid 3 Spade and see what happens.

But obviously you are on a different wavelength and partner has just 4 spades.

I would gamble pass because this may be our best spot and we have no tools to find out the best strain anyway. It seems to be that many of my HCPS are wasted.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 05:28

I think we should have bid 3♦ on the previous round. Then we would have known by the time we get to 3NT , about partner's diamond support (or lack of it). This is obviously forcing , since 2♠ was GF.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 05:29

Tempting to bid 4NT but maybe it is not much other than a blame transfer ....
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Posted 2010-February-08, 05:47

I don't understand what stopped me from bidding 3♦ the round before, don't ask when you can show.

as it is now I am trying 4♦
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Posted 2010-February-08, 06:10

Abstain, we cannot have this hand and bid 3H and then bid 4D. Partner will either think we are showing a heart control, or he will think we are showing much worse and/or shorter diamonds.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 07:15

I agree, why didn't I bid 3♦ the last round?
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Posted 2010-February-08, 08:02

Partner has Clubs, spades and a heart stop? No room for any diamonds and if we are missing both minor suit queens, 3nt is in severe danger.

I'm giving up on slam opposite expected diamond shortage and pick 4 spades on the moyse as the best game. If partner carries on, 6 spades should be far from hopeless. AQJ10, Ax, x, AKJxxx in pards hand might even make 7.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 10:03

Free, on Feb 8 2010, 04:17 AM, said:

[snip] If you don't pass, what do you expect partner to do?

get into trouble
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Posted 2010-February-08, 10:24

I agree with many who have already stated that 3♦, not 3♥, was the correct bid on the previous round.

Having bid 3♥, you have no choice but to pass now.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 10:58

I wanted to be the first to abstain.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 11:40

jdonn, on Feb 8 2010, 11:58 AM, said:

I wanted to be the first to abstain.

maybe you could be first to b a stain :lol:
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Posted 2010-February-08, 12:17

Given that 3D instead of 3H should have been bid:

If Opener bids 3NT/3D:

1) Is 4S now a quantitative move toward slam checking back for a 5-3 fit?
2) If So, would you do it?

For the reasons ggwhiz points out, you might bid 4S anyway and not really care whether partner continues on or not.
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