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After a 2♣ opening when does bidding a suit show 5 in that suit as opposed to 4. In the case of a 2♦ Neg (0-7) and otherwise pl.
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Bidding After Strong 2c Length Shown
#1
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Posted 2010-February-08, 19:16
Hi,
After a 2♣ opening when does bidding a suit show 5 in that suit as opposed to 4. In the case of a 2♦ Neg (0-7) and otherwise pl.
Beginnner Here.
After a 2♣ opening when does bidding a suit show 5 in that suit as opposed to 4. In the case of a 2♦ Neg (0-7) and otherwise pl.
Beginnner Here.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 19:38
The first suit bid is always five or more. You can show a four card suit if you have already bid a five card suit or NT.
Unbalanced hands with a four card major and five card or longer minor are difficult to bid after starting with 2♣. For this reason many people open 1 of a minor even with very strong hands, e.g. x AKJx AKJxx AKx. It's better to hope 1♦ is not passed out than to get into an auction like 2♣-2♦-3♦-3♠.
Unbalanced hands with a four card major and five card or longer minor are difficult to bid after starting with 2♣. For this reason many people open 1 of a minor even with very strong hands, e.g. x AKJx AKJxx AKx. It's better to hope 1♦ is not passed out than to get into an auction like 2♣-2♦-3♦-3♠.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 19:50
2♦ negative doesn't show anything about suit lengths. Other than that I pretty much agree with Nigel.
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Posted 2010-February-09, 01:28
If you want to show length play it like Nigel.
But as you just start to set the rules for the continuations after 2 ♣ in your partnership, I would recomment other methods.
Partner has most often the following hands for a strong 2 ♣ opening:
A very strong NT or a big onesuiter, mostly in a major.
In all these cases you want to hear what partner have at the lowest possible level.
So I think it is of much more value to have a system where you can tell partner about your strength at the 2 level, not about your length.
But as you just start to set the rules for the continuations after 2 ♣ in your partnership, I would recomment other methods.
Partner has most often the following hands for a strong 2 ♣ opening:
A very strong NT or a big onesuiter, mostly in a major.
In all these cases you want to hear what partner have at the lowest possible level.
So I think it is of much more value to have a system where you can tell partner about your strength at the 2 level, not about your length.
Kind Regards
Roland
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More system is not the answer...
Roland
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More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2010-February-09, 05:16
What nigelk said.
Responder should not rush in to bid his suit (unless it is phenomenally pretty like AQJxxx). He should let opener describe his hand first. I strongly recommend you do not use 2D for "negative" and use it instead as "waiting". You can always agree to have the lowest 3-level bid be the "negative" next round or you could agree that 2C-2H is a direct "negative".
Responder should not rush in to bid his suit (unless it is phenomenally pretty like AQJxxx). He should let opener describe his hand first. I strongly recommend you do not use 2D for "negative" and use it instead as "waiting". You can always agree to have the lowest 3-level bid be the "negative" next round or you could agree that 2C-2H is a direct "negative".
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