Partner Opened 2C IIRC WTF?
#21
Posted 2010-February-04, 19:06
Call me Desdinova...Eternal Light
C. It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
IV: ace 333: pot should be game, idk
e: "Maybe God remembered how cute you were as a carrot."
#22
Posted 2010-February-04, 21:10
kfay, on Feb 4 2010, 01:02 PM, said:
I would pass, I bid
2d=game force
3h=slam try
4d=slam try
pass I give up.
#24
Posted 2010-February-04, 21:28
I grant I rely alot on rkc.
#25
Posted 2010-February-05, 02:02
pretzalz, on Feb 5 2010, 12:06 AM, said:
Yes (but I like 2♠=8-10 balanced so in a way I am with you)
George Carlin
#26
Posted 2010-February-05, 02:21
we made not one but two slam tries..ol 2 and 1/2.....pard bids 4h......give up.
#27
Posted 2010-February-05, 02:55
#28
Posted 2010-February-05, 03:27
To me this had been easy, we are off the first two tricks in club, so I pass without a second thought.
Obviously many of you play a quite different system. Here partner showed enough strength for one slam move but not for a second, while my hand is more or less unlimited. In this case I would try 5 ♥ to show extras without another cue.
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#29
Posted 2010-February-05, 05:16
#30
Posted 2010-February-05, 07:43
-gwnn
#31
Posted 2010-February-05, 08:37
billw55, on Feb 5 2010, 08:43 AM, said:
Problem is now we haven't agreed hearts until the 4-level! OOPS!!!
#32
Posted 2010-February-05, 08:44
kfay, on Feb 4 2010, 01:02 PM, said:
2♣-2♦
2♥-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-?
you need to look at this from the 2♣ opener's point of view. (S)he knows once (s)he bypassed the ♣ suit it would look like 2 possible losers and (s)he knows you will be in a terrible position to move over the 4♥ game bid. Believe them and pass.
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
#33
Posted 2010-February-05, 08:48
#34
Posted 2010-February-05, 08:57
#35
Posted 2010-February-05, 09:11
hanp, on Feb 5 2010, 03:55 AM, said:
My thoughts exactly, Han.
Although, to be honest, I wasn't sure what my obligations were even with:
xxx xxx Kxxx xxx
#36
Posted 2010-February-05, 09:45
kfay, on Feb 5 2010, 09:37 AM, said:
billw55, on Feb 5 2010, 08:43 AM, said:
Problem is now we haven't agreed hearts until the 4-level! OOPS!!!
So what? Let's try gwnn's 2♠ to show 8-10 balanced:
2♣ - 2♠
3♥ - 4♥
My hand is in a very small box now, so partner can make good decisions going forward. Perhaps:
4♠ - 5♦
and now he can sign off in 5♥ with two club losers. Or he can use keycard over 4♥. Or he can pass if he was stretching to open 2♣.
-gwnn
#37
Posted 2010-February-05, 09:47
billw55, on Feb 5 2010, 10:45 AM, said:
kfay, on Feb 5 2010, 09:37 AM, said:
billw55, on Feb 5 2010, 08:43 AM, said:
Problem is now we haven't agreed hearts until the 4-level! OOPS!!!
So what? Let's try gwnn's 2♠ to show 8-10 balanced:
2♣ - 2♠
3♥ - 4♥
My hand is in a very small box now, so partner can make good decisions going forward. Perhaps:
4♠ - 5♦
and now he can sign off in 5♥ with two club losers. Or he can use keycard over 4♥. Or he can pass if he was stretching to open 2♣.
I'm not sure, not playing the system, but shouldn't the auction go:
2♣-2♠
3♥-4♦
hey... I'm blanced so I can't really have a diamond suit, right?
#38
Posted 2010-February-05, 09:51
kfay, on Feb 5 2010, 10:47 AM, said:
2♣-2♠
3♥-4♦
hey... I'm blanced so I can't really have a diamond suit, right?
Possibly, if opener will understand that 4♦ agrees hearts.
Either way, it seems that we get to 4♥ with partner knowing my hand better than after the nebulous 2♦ sequence.
-gwnn
#39
Posted 2010-February-05, 11:22
kfay, on Feb 4 2010, 01:02 PM, said:
2♣-2♦
2♥-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-?
If paying "mixed cues", then 4♦ denies a ♣ control.
4♥ says: " Unfortunately, I have 2 quick losers in ♣, otherwise I would have gone 4NT ( RKC for ♥ ), or continued with cuebids.
[ I know, I know... RKC is for wimps ] .
#40
Posted 2010-February-05, 11:27
Do you think he's obligated to bid more over 4♦? Wouldn't I certainly bid this way with xxx xxx KQxx xxx or xxx Qxx Kxxx xxx (and maybe even xxx xxx Kxxx xxx)?
So my thoughts were: Partner opened 2♣!!! I went on... at the other table they did not and they were +680.
Thoughts?
Make my ♣Q the ♠Q or switch partner's blacks and we're cold, on the lie of the cards on this hand we were cold... but is he supposed to bid more just because he has the ♣A? The auction was the same at the other table up to 4♥.

Help

2♣-2♦
2♥-3♥
3♠-4♦
4♥-?