[Cascade]

2♣ 3♠ Pass Pass
6♥ Pass Pass Dbl
All Pass

What if any lead is indicated by the double?

[DrTodd13]

I would think this double would request an unusual lead and since the usual lead would be a spade after the 3S bid I think this is requesting a non-spade lead.

Todd

[Free]

Lead your longest minor...

[flytoox]

i would just lead my longest suit. declarer has long h suit, can he has another long minor suit?

[tysen2k]

Longest minor. Doubler is hoping you find his void.

[the hog]

Agree with other posters - the normal lead is a S, so lead a minor.

[Flame]

I would lead my spades expecting a ruff, or another suit only if i got 5+ cards in it.

[Cascade]

Initially I thought that a double would ask for a different lead and at the table with a spade void and a side Ace I sat quiet hoping for a spade lead which thankfully came.

However later I thought often the 3♠ bidder will have a singleton and go after his own ruff. You do not want this happening when you can ruff spades. So I wondered whether a double was more useful asking for a spade lead.

[whereagles]

Hum.. interesting thought, Cascade. It goes to show the only "rule" of bridge that always works is to think!!

If pard wanted to ruff a minor, he would probably have some spade support, and could have bid it like

2C (3S) pass (4m)

Against 6H, overcaller won't always automatically lead spades, especially from tenace holdings such as KJ or AQ. Therefore the double on 6H might very well hint at the spade void.

[luke warm]

i agree it can't be spades... so pick whichever minor you think pard wants led

[flytoox]

Cascade, on Jul 13 2004, 11:12 PM, said:

Initially I thought that a double would ask for a different lead and at the table with a spade void and a side Ace I sat quiet hoping for a spade lead which thankfully came.

However later I thought often the 3♠ bidder will have a singleton and go after his own ruff. You do not want this happening when you can ruff spades. So I wondered whether a double was more useful asking for a spade lead.

I think in this situation dbl is still asking pd to lead his longest suit. Bidding 3S doesnt mean he is going to lead it. pd may bid 3s with kj9xxxx, why he has to lead it if no dbl?

If you bid 3s, then dbl should have different implication, i.e. pls dont lead s.

just my two cents

hongjun

[Flame]

flytoox, on Jul 15 2004, 08:09 AM, said:

I think in this situation dbl is still asking pd to lead his longest suit. Bidding 3S doesnt mean he is going to lead it.

I think partner just saying he has a void and think we can find it. it doesnt have to be spades, if i have a long outside suit i will lead it, if not ill lead spade, and if i lead A of spades which holds i will easily find his void wather its spades or not.

[Fluffy]

Lightner doubles have to be precise, you can´t cope with all situations with just 2 possible bids, since doubling is the risk bid you have to keep it as 'consistent' as possible, most players here agreed that the lightner double asked for longest minor, keep it simple, there are too many situatiosn and changing the meaning of such bids on each is imposible to remember. Keep it simple.

[whereagles]

Bridge is a judgement game. You can, and should, use your imagination.

Whether or not to "try" for a non-standard Lightner double here, is a matter of style and a personal choice.

[mpefritz]

I expect to see partner with a void in one of the minors. Declarer, assuming not totally off his rocker, has a stiff spade (or a void or some top honors). I would be looking at my longest non-trump, non-spade suit to lead (with suit preference built in if appropriate).

fritz