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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2010-January-27, 11:52

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(Pass)-1♣-(2♦)-??
2♦ is preemptive, but can be wide ranging with a passed partner.
Is penalty pass a good idea at this vulnerability?
 
 
 
This was my bidding:
(Pass)-1♣-(2♦)-Pass
(Pass)-3♣-(Pass)-3NT
All pass
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Posted 2010-January-27, 12:11

Well, the end result seems OK. I'd be rather concerned that 6♣ makes, but 3NT should be a decent contract.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 12:35

I would be very concerned about two things:

(1) Missing a slam (or a better game) in clubs; and
(2) Going down in 3NT on a spade lead.

Whenever I have a good fit for partner, a strong holding in the opponent's announced suit and a weakness somewhere else, it never seems to fail that the opponents attack the weakness successfully.

It is far from clear how one should proceed over 2♦. After passing and hearing partner reopen with 3♣, perhaps you should bid 3♦ which must show that you were waiting for a reopening double.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 16:48

Definitely 3D over 3C.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 17:00

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Posted 2010-January-27, 18:24

IS 3♦ over 3♣ showing this hand and will you pass if partner would bid 3NT over it?
Or can you also bid 3♦ over 3♣ with a weak hand?
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Posted 2010-January-28, 01:27

kgr, on Jan 28 2010, 09:24 AM, said:

IS 3♦ over 3♣ showing this hand and will you pass if partner would bid 3NT over it?
Or can you also bid 3♦ over 3♣ with a weak hand?

I would be very surprised if partner finds a 3 NT bid here. Do opps frequently bid 2 Diamond on QJxxx?
.... I would bid 3 NT over his 3 of a major bid.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 17:28

Scoring: IMP

Thanks all
(I especially wondered if first pass is a good idea at his vulnerability)
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Posted 2010-January-28, 21:12

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Posted 2010-January-29, 03:34

3C shows an unbalanced hand with good clubs. I would double with this north hand.
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Posted 2010-January-29, 04:58

hanp, on Jan 29 2010, 10:34 AM, said:

3C shows an unbalanced hand with good clubs. I would double with this north hand.

Having doubled, which major-suit responses would you pass?
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Posted 2010-January-29, 08:09

I would certainly not pass 2H with the north hand, passing 2S is an option. If I double and pull to 3C, then I think that that is a better description than a direct 3C.

I gave the north hand to the east you recently called a very fine player. She doubled 2D and when I said partner bid 2H, she decided to bid 2NT and thought this suggested clubs.

What would you do Andy?
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Posted 2010-January-29, 08:42

hanp, on Jan 29 2010, 03:09 PM, said:

I gave the north hand to the east you recently called a very fine player. She doubled 2D and when I said partner bid 2H, she decided to bid 2NT and thought this suggested clubs.

What would you do Andy?

Now that you've planted the idea in my head, I'd double and then bid 2NT over 2♥. With 4225, I could bid 2♠, so I'm likely to have six clubs.

I wouldn't have thought of that until you suggested it, though. When is your friend going to publish her book on advanced inferences in competitive auctions?
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Posted 2010-January-29, 12:04

Lol the Meike/Andy partnership is going to take over the world?!
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