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(2♥) - p - (p) - ?
♠ AQxxx
♥ -
♦ Jxxx
♣ xxxx
IMPs, NV vs V
Rate: Pass, X, 2♠
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Posted 2010-January-27, 21:06
Every time I have this decision I bid 2♠ because my defense isn't so hot and/or because I have 5 spades and that hasn't been right yet, so I will attempt to learn and double. I'm not sure how I would rate 2♠ vs X, but I'm sure I would give pass a 0.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 21:08
this must be too much. I pass and don't care about partner's vindictive look from across the screen
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 21:08
I pass. I think we are plus but not huge. It is never fun defending a low-level doubled contract with a void in trumps.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 21:09
I'd probably x, 2S is fine, pass is not. If my opponents were known to be conservative about r/w preempts I would bid 2S.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 21:09
TylerE, on Jan 27 2010, 09:33 PM, said:
(2♥) - p - (p) - ?
♠ AQxxx
♥ -
♦ Jxxx
♣ xxxx
IMPs, NV vs V
Rate: Pass, X, 2♠
♠ AQxxx
♥ -
♦ Jxxx
♣ xxxx
IMPs, NV vs V
Rate: Pass, X, 2♠
pass, easy
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Posted 2010-January-27, 21:23
Don't pass and don't X!
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Posted 2010-January-27, 22:39
2S, WTP?
Oh yeah, pard has 6 hearts and a spade stiff in a 10 count. Been there but I still don't sleep with a night light.
Oh yeah, pard has 6 hearts and a spade stiff in a 10 count. Been there but I still don't sleep with a night light.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 23:41
I can't imagine any action other than 2♠. I don't want to suggest to partner that 2♥x would be an acceptable contract if he has a good defensive hand, and I certainly don't want to pass out 2♥. I like direct actions over preempts to be sound, so it is even possible (but not very likely) that we could have a game in spades.
Rate the three actions? How is this:
2♠ - obvious. 90%. I don't give out 100% because it is possible that another action might work better on a given layout.
Double - dangerous. 10%. Could be the winning call, but is more likely to lead to -670 or worse.
Pass - 100% on the wimp scale.
Rate the three actions? How is this:
2♠ - obvious. 90%. I don't give out 100% because it is possible that another action might work better on a given layout.
Double - dangerous. 10%. Could be the winning call, but is more likely to lead to -670 or worse.
Pass - 100% on the wimp scale.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 23:46
TylerE, on Jan 27 2010, 09:33 PM, said:
(2♥) - p - (p) - ?
♠ AQxxx
♥ -
♦ Jxxx
♣ xxxx
IMPs, NV vs V
Rate: Pass, X, 2♠
♠ AQxxx
♥ -
♦ Jxxx
♣ xxxx
IMPs, NV vs V
Rate: Pass, X, 2♠
partner has 5 hearts yes.... or more
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Posted 2010-January-28, 00:15
Ugh, my gut reaction is that we must pass this, maybe it is 3 down, but +300 is better than +110 anyway.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 00:58
Wow, suprised so many against pass. I would pass, but do not hate 2♠. Definitely would not double.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 01:32
So partner has a trap pass? Which hand do we need to make game?
Kxx, AQJxx,AKx,xx? He really passed with this hand?
Possible.
I pass.
Kxx, AQJxx,AKx,xx? He really passed with this hand?
Possible.
I pass.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 02:13
2♠. Hate X as we can't lead trumps, and we have hardly any defensive tricks so partner will need alot to set 2♥X. If a gun was held to my head to choose between pass and X, I'd pass.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 02:29
I dealt 30 hands and for each checked which call would work best. 2S and pass were about equal, with double far behind. 
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 02:30
I don't believe in a trap pass. With the values necessary partner could find a different more constructive bid. It's much more likely opener is close to maximum and responders pass was very disciplined.
I pass.
I pass.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 02:31
At IMPs, this is an easy pass.
If it is our hand, and we have a game, there are very few hands where partner could pass initially.
If it is our hand and 2♥ is going down, it may go down 2. Our void is not an asset on defense. I will be happy with +200 after a pass, even if a double would give us +500.
If it is not our hand, this will be a misfit. And because we don't have the values for any action, we will get too high. Partner will bid 3NT or something and we will go for a number when RHO doubles.
Finally, if we double and partner leaves it in, counting on the values that we have promised, we can write down -670 or -870, instead of -110 or -140.
At IMPs, it simply isn't worth risking giving the opponents a game or an opportunity to wack us, just to compete for a partscore or to try and turn a +100 into a +200.
I will sit back and see whether this will be +100 or -110.
Rik
If it is our hand, and we have a game, there are very few hands where partner could pass initially.
If it is our hand and 2♥ is going down, it may go down 2. Our void is not an asset on defense. I will be happy with +200 after a pass, even if a double would give us +500.
If it is not our hand, this will be a misfit. And because we don't have the values for any action, we will get too high. Partner will bid 3NT or something and we will go for a number when RHO doubles.
Finally, if we double and partner leaves it in, counting on the values that we have promised, we can write down -670 or -870, instead of -110 or -140.
At IMPs, it simply isn't worth risking giving the opponents a game or an opportunity to wack us, just to compete for a partscore or to try and turn a +100 into a +200.
I will sit back and see whether this will be +100 or -110.
Rik
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Posted 2010-January-28, 05:27
2♠ for me, double is too likely to result in -670.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-January-28, 08:01
For those advocating pass...how much more would yuo need to change your mind?
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Posted 2010-January-28, 08:03
effervesce, on Jan 28 2010, 05:13 PM, said:
2♠. Hate X as we can't lead trumps, and we have hardly any defensive tricks so partner will need alot to set 2♥X. If a gun was held to my head to choose between pass and X, I'd pass.
So your lho has 6Hearts. you partner has 4 good or even five ones. Why do you ever want to have a trump to lead one?
I will never understand this argument.
Of course if they had bid 1♦ 1♥ 2♣ all pass, I would like to hav trump to lead. BUT HERE: Why?
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