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try pass or blast 6-4 bid more

Poll: Your call? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (1 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  2. 2S support ask (7 votes [25.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.93%

  3. 3D (forcing LSGT) (5 votes [18.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.52%

  4. 3H (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  5. 3S (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  6. 4H (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  7. Other (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  8. Abstain (would have raised diamonds before) (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2010-January-25, 10:33

Scoring: XIMP


Sitting West:

1D!-1H"
2H£-??

! Guarantees 4 diamonds
" Raises systemically deny a 4cM
£ may only be 3 card support (if any 5431, 6331 with bad 6 card suit or occasionally balanced with xx somewhere)
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Posted 2010-January-25, 10:34

4♥.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 11:02

support ask.

max with 3 I try 5♦.
min with 3 I try 3♦ natural.
4 I try 4♥.

this is a nonexpert train of thought but I found that at this stage of my bridge playing career the expert bids I try never work like on vugraph.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 14:29

3D, natural and forcing for one round. But I have never heard that it could be a LSGT for hearts and I would never agree to play it that way.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 14:30

we need to know how many trumps partner has
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Posted 2010-January-25, 18:14

Jlall, on Jan 25 2010, 03:30 PM, said:

we need to know how many trumps partner has

You bet we do!!! and hopefully that is what 2♠ conventionally requests or you can subtract 1 from that list.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 03:15

well it says it's a support ask. what else could it request?

2NT=doesn't support Donald Trump
3♣=support the clubbing of baby seals
3♦=support the acquisition of blood diamonds from Africa
3♥=support heart transplant patients

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Posted 2010-January-26, 06:58

2S asks for number of trumps then that is the call. I am not going to attempt 4H on the 4-3.

Hey leave our seals out of this!!!
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Posted 2010-January-26, 08:55

Assuming 2♥ means four, I am torn apart between 3♥ and 4♥, but I think I'll settle for 3. Opps are less likely to balance when they could push us to a makeable game. Pass is out of the question as opps are going to wake up, and balance with their ♠. This makes any number of ♦ even worse, as opps will then know both their fits.

If partner promised only 3 hearts I curse our system, and pass.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 11:42

why don't you read the opening post? maybe it says there if partner promised 3 or 4.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 09:57

manudude03, on Jan 25 2010, 05:33 PM, said:

Dealer: East
Vul: Both
Scoring: XIMP
♠  
♥ AT74
♦ JT9876
♣ JT4
 


Sitting West:

1D!-1H"
2H£-??

! Guarantees 4 diamonds
" Raises systemically deny a 4cM
£ may only be 3 card support (if any 5431, 6331 with bad 6 card suit or occasionally balanced with xx somewhere)

If I hold six diamonds and 6 HCP and partner has a minimum raise, he will not have 5 or 6 diamonds. With half the deck and at most 2 diamonds between them, the opponents would have been bidding at any vulnerability.

Never say never, but I will bet that partner has precisely four diamonds.

If partner has precisely four diamonds, he will have four hearts (unless he has three hearts and a small doubleton in which case the doubleton is probably in clubs). Since I am 99% sure that partner has four hearts, there is absolutely no need to ask and tip off the opponents that I have exactly four of them. I will just look as if I hold a 13 point balanced hand with 5 hearts and I will bid 4♥.

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