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Cooking the hands Which Law forbids it

#1 User is offline   peachy 

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Posted 2010-January-19, 18:52

In another BBO Forum, I have argued that it is illegal to manipulate the deals in any way, against a suggestion that it would be good for bridge to redistribute HCP at or after machine dealing or changing something in the dealing machine so that both sides get them maybe evenly, or manually adjusting the hands after dealing. Forgive my ignorance of terms etc. but I hope you understand what I am saying.

I tried to look up which law or laws specifically forbid this. The laws do not discuss dealing by machine at all.
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Posted 2010-January-19, 19:28

6A requires that (for hand dealing) "each pack is thoroughly shuffled," i.e., you cannot incorporate information about other deals into how the pack is prepared for this deal.

6E1-6E3 says that the boards can be hand-dealt in advance.

6E4 covers all non-hand-dealt methods: "the Director may require a different method of
dealing or pre-dealing to produce the same wholly random expectations as from A and B above."
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Posted 2010-January-19, 20:35

Siegmund, on Jan 19 2010, 08:28 PM, said:

6A requires that (for hand dealing) "each pack is thoroughly shuffled," i.e., you cannot incorporate information about other deals into how the pack is prepared for this deal.

6E1-6E3 says that the boards can be hand-dealt in advance.

6E4 covers all non-hand-dealt methods: "the Director may require a different method of
dealing or pre-dealing to produce the same wholly random expectations as from A and B above."

Thanks, I knew it was there somewhere.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 05:34

Note that you can cook the hands if you want to, for a party or "fun game" where people want more wild & crazy hands, but this is no longer bridge,
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Posted 2010-January-20, 14:16

CamHenry, on Jan 20 2010, 06:34 AM, said:

Note that you can cook the hands if you want to, for a party or "fun game" where people want more wild & crazy hands, but this is no longer bridge,

You can also cook the hands for Par tournaments.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 15:25

CamHenry, on Jan 20 2010, 06:34 AM, said:

Note that you can cook the hands if you want to, for a party or "fun game" where people want more wild & crazy hands, but this is no longer bridge,

Of course, no problem with private functions or parties.
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Posted 2010-January-20, 16:04

And, of course, "instant matchpoint" games, where the hands are replayed and scored against the initial play (from 1955 or 1960 or somewhen). Of course, there's a specific section of Law6D2 for this exact situation.
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