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Just read on the website of the Dutch Bridge Association: The Bermuda Bowl and Venice Cup will be held in The Netherlands.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 12:53
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Posted 2010-January-23, 13:18
to quote from the site, www.bridge.nl , via translation:
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 14:54
glen, on Jan 23 2010, 02:18 PM, said:
to quote from the site, www.bridge.nl , via translation:
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
I am rather surprised a hotel and venue are not booked yet. 18 months is a very short lead time. These places are booked years in advance.
Perhaps with the worldwide recession space is opening up.
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Posted 2010-January-23, 15:52
mike777, on Jan 23 2010, 03:54 PM, said:
glen, on Jan 23 2010, 02:18 PM, said:
to quote from the site, www.bridge.nl , via translation:
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
I am rather surprised a hotel and venue are not booked yet. 18 months is a very short lead time. These places are booked years in advance.
Perhaps with the worldwide recession space is opening up.
So far I am able to understand dutch...the final decision to play BB 2011 in Netherlands has been made yesterday (friday)...so there was no time for any further preparations....anyway I dont think the "ACBL-practice">>>to book all years in advance is needed in Europe generally.
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Posted 2010-January-24, 01:49
I assume this means that the Netherlands are assured of a spot in the BB (and VC) in 2011.
Does that mean that only 5 other spots are left for European teams (Qualifying from the Europeans in 2010) , or the hosts have a reserved place and 6 OTHER teams (including the 7th placed , assuming Netherlands team is in top 6) will qualify?
Does that mean that only 5 other spots are left for European teams (Qualifying from the Europeans in 2010) , or the hosts have a reserved place and 6 OTHER teams (including the 7th placed , assuming Netherlands team is in top 6) will qualify?
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Posted 2010-January-24, 02:03
Aberlour10, on Jan 23 2010, 04:52 PM, said:
mike777, on Jan 23 2010, 03:54 PM, said:
glen, on Jan 23 2010, 02:18 PM, said:
to quote from the site, www.bridge.nl , via translation:
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
"Probably the World Cup will be held in the second half of October 2011, the location is not known", that is the location in the Netherlands is not known yet, but it will be there.
I am rather surprised a hotel and venue are not booked yet. 18 months is a very short lead time. These places are booked years in advance.
Perhaps with the worldwide recession space is opening up.
So far I am able to understand dutch...the final decision to play BB 2011 in Netherlands has been made yesterday (friday)...so there was no time for any further preparations....anyway I dont think the "ACBL-practice">>>to book all years in advance is needed in Europe generally.
Robert
so your point is
there is little demand for excellent hotel/bridge space in europe...hmmmmmm
lots and lots of supply.....little demand.....
now I am really worried.
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Posted 2010-January-24, 02:31
mich-b, on Jan 24 2010, 02:49 AM, said:
I assume this means that the Netherlands are assured of a spot in the BB (and VC) in 2011.
Does that mean that only 5 other spots are left for European teams (Qualifying from the Europeans in 2010) , or the hosts have a reserved place and 6 OTHER teams (including the 7th placed , assuming Netherlands team is in top 6) will qualify?
Does that mean that only 5 other spots are left for European teams (Qualifying from the Europeans in 2010) , or the hosts have a reserved place and 6 OTHER teams (including the 7th placed , assuming Netherlands team is in top 6) will qualify?
According to the General Conditions of the Contest, Appendix 7...the host country may send a team to all 3 championships ex-quota of the zonal distribution.
It means 7 spots for Europe...same like in Estoril 2005.
There is another regulation...
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In the event that the above allocation result in an odd number of teams for either or both the BB/VC/d'OSB, Zone 1 may send an additional team to create an even number of teams.
Does it mean there is a chance for the 8th spot for Europe?
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Posted 2010-January-24, 07:13
An excellent choice, the bridge infrastructure is great and you will get LOTS of specs.
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The host spot does not count for the number of places for other teams, but the 5-or-6 for Europe depends on results of other zones in things like Olympiad I think.
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I assume this means that the Netherlands are assured of a spot in the BB (and VC) in 2011.
Does that mean that only 5 other spots are left for European teams (Qualifying from the Europeans in 2010) , or the hosts have a reserved place and 6 OTHER teams (including the 7th placed , assuming Netherlands team is in top 6) will qualify?
Does that mean that only 5 other spots are left for European teams (Qualifying from the Europeans in 2010) , or the hosts have a reserved place and 6 OTHER teams (including the 7th placed , assuming Netherlands team is in top 6) will qualify?
The host spot does not count for the number of places for other teams, but the 5-or-6 for Europe depends on results of other zones in things like Olympiad I think.
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Posted 2010-January-24, 10:57
Wonderful!
Now I'll just have to get me onto the Dutch team.
Now I'll just have to get me onto the Dutch team.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-24, 19:16
Excellent, now I will just have to plan to skip lessons and cross the channel to watch!
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Posted 2010-January-25, 11:47
There is a reason ACBL books their NABC's so far in advance. At a meeting with ACBL in planning the upcoming Reno NABC I was told that there are 15 suitable venues in the US and Canada for holding NABC's. That's not many to choose from.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 12:00
NABCs have 1500-2000 players per day, many times larger than the BB.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 12:36
many times?
If we include all competitions, there play up to 70 teams in WC every day, + all these coaches, officials etc + up to 150 teams in Transnationals. ( only a part of them coming from open, women and senior events)
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If we include all competitions, there play up to 70 teams in WC every day, + all these coaches, officials etc + up to 150 teams in Transnationals. ( only a part of them coming from open, women and senior events)
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Posted 2010-January-25, 14:53
JoAnneM, on Jan 25 2010, 12:47 PM, said:
There is a reason ACBL books their NABC's so far in advance. At a meeting with ACBL in planning the upcoming Reno NABC I was told that there are 15 suitable venues in the US and Canada for holding NABC's. That's not many to choose from.
Define "suitable venue" please.
I can easily come up with around 30 cities that would certainly be capable of hosting an NABC. I'm sure there are more.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 02:31
JoAnneM, on Jan 25 2010, 07:47 PM, said:
There is a reason ACBL books their NABC's so far in advance. At a meeting with ACBL in planning the upcoming Reno NABC I was told that there are 15 suitable venues in the US and Canada for holding NABC's. That's not many to choose from.
Does any of them have a stable internet connection, and are the rates reasonable? Does anyone check before they book? They may all have posh hotels, but I seem to remember that internet connections have been pretty poor.
How high a priority is that for the ACBL?
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Posted 2010-January-26, 13:41
If there were really only 15 suitable NABC venues, we would be on a 5 year cycle, rotating among those same 15 locations. In actuality, the cycle is more like 7-8 years for the cities that are used in every cycle, and they fill out the cycles with cities that they only go to every 10-20 years.
There are lots of considerations. For instance, NYC certainly has the capacity and infrastructure, but we rarely go there because it's more expensive than just about any other venue.
There are lots of considerations. For instance, NYC certainly has the capacity and infrastructure, but we rarely go there because it's more expensive than just about any other venue.
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Posted 2010-January-27, 01:01
Just thought it was curious that even the most "international" topic , like the BB and VC venue , eventually got reduced to a discussion of ACBL matters...
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