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Posted 2010-January-13, 22:50
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Posted 2010-January-13, 22:56
pass
Just shy of what I need to make a t/o at this level.
Just shy of what I need to make a t/o at this level.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 00:30
2♥
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Posted 2010-January-14, 01:18
2♥
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Posted 2010-January-14, 01:21
Pass. Get easily burned overcalling a hand and suit this weak.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 01:24
Double.
Of course I would prefer to have a 3rd ♣ , but otherwise I have an opening hand , short ♠, and ♥s (and 2 very useful 10s).
Pass is reasonable , 2♥ is not.
Of course I would prefer to have a 3rd ♣ , but otherwise I have an opening hand , short ♠, and ♥s (and 2 very useful 10s).
Pass is reasonable , 2♥ is not.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 01:43
pass no problem yet. as a nonexpert I don't like to overcall lite.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 02:44
this is an easy pass
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Posted 2010-January-14, 03:30
For handling this hand type I recommend the West Texas Overcall.
El Paso. Get it? (Runs and hides before the rotten vegetables start flying.)
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Posted 2010-January-14, 03:40
I would double. As a general rule I don't like to have 5 card majors in a takeout double, but double seems a nice compromise between the very ugly 2♥ overcall and pass.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 03:47
Hi,
If I bid, I bid 2H.
It is not clear, but it is not clear, that I would bid, but it is also
not sure, that I would Pass.
With kind regards
Marlowe
If I bid, I bid 2H.
It is not clear, but it is not clear, that I would bid, but it is also
not sure, that I would Pass.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2010-January-14, 04:12
I would double, second choice pass. No way I'm overcalling 2H on this suit and these values.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 04:54
I would never double wrong shape in clubs and hearts- I would like to bid 2 Heart to take away one level of bidding- but I won't.
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More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2010-January-14, 06:32
I've already gone for 2000 for overcalling 2♥ with a lousy suit and hand. In that case it was KJxxx and I believe I had 3 spades and no 4-card minor for sure. If you're playing against strong opponentns who'd double you when it is right don't overcall at these colors. X is not that good either, unless you want to risk playing in a 4(3)-2 club fit.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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Posted 2010-January-14, 07:17
At this vul I'm not overcalling 2♥ with that suit and no values to compensate, its just asking for problems. I don't like passing much either with a decent opening hand and Ax in ♠, so double it is.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 09:02
2♥ is for sickos who haven't gone for enough numbers yet.
If i make any call, aside from pass, it's double. If I don't get in now, I may never get in, but that might not be a bad thing. In real life, I'm a passer, but have no problems with double. Bidding aggressive games may be a winning style, but I don't see why we're in game territory at this point. Call me a coward.
If i make any call, aside from pass, it's double. If I don't get in now, I may never get in, but that might not be a bad thing. In real life, I'm a passer, but have no problems with double. Bidding aggressive games may be a winning style, but I don't see why we're in game territory at this point. Call me a coward.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 09:05
2♥ or Pass, depending on the day.
For the DBLers: Do you play ELC? Or do you think that the risk is smaller because you will RDBL if it goes:
(1♠)-DBL-(Pass)-2♣
(Pass)-Pass-(DBL)-(Pass)
(Pass)-RDBL?
For the DBLers: Do you play ELC? Or do you think that the risk is smaller because you will RDBL if it goes:
(1♠)-DBL-(Pass)-2♣
(Pass)-Pass-(DBL)-(Pass)
(Pass)-RDBL?
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Posted 2010-January-14, 09:10
Pass for me.
OK
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Posted 2010-January-14, 09:18
kgr, on Jan 14 2010, 03:05 PM, said:
2♥ or Pass, depending on the day.
For the DBLers: Do you play ELC? Or do you think that the risk is smaller because you will RDBL if it goes:
(1♠)-DBL-(Pass)-2♣
(Pass)-Pass-(DBL)-(Pass)
(Pass)-RDBL?
For the DBLers: Do you play ELC? Or do you think that the risk is smaller because you will RDBL if it goes:
(1♠)-DBL-(Pass)-2♣
(Pass)-Pass-(DBL)-(Pass)
(Pass)-RDBL?
I have no experience doubling with doubletons, but I have a ton of experience playing against people who double on with doubletons, and I have never haunted them down at the 2 level.
There are much bigger risks on doubling than to be doubled on 2♣, no need to be doubled for the score to be poor, partner can compete 3 or 4♣, or you can miss your major fit.
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Posted 2010-January-14, 09:49
At the table I'd pass. I have some respect for X, but would be nervous with that club holding myself. 2♥ is crazy imo. Do I want the lead? No. Do I have a solid suit? No. Is hearts a safe suit at this point? hell no.