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Please bid!

Poll: I bid: (68 member(s) have cast votes)

I bid:

  1. pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. X (32 votes [47.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.06%

  3. 1 NT (25 votes [36.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.76%

  4. 2 D (11 votes [16.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.18%

  5. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Rev Dino 

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Posted 2009-December-30, 05:43

Opp on the third spot open 1 ♠ you hold:

Kx
AQx
AQxxx
xxx

and bid:
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Posted 2009-December-30, 05:51

x, spades too weak for 1NT, diamonds too weak for 2♦ (sort of). if you have 2 in their major and 5m332 it's much better to double.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:06

I like 1NT. X is reasonable as well IMO. Hate anything else
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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:11

1NT, wtp.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:26

Double. Never 1NT with this takeout shape.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:28

I picked X, too. One ♦ short of overcalling in them and NT didn't even cross my mind...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:47

1NT. Like the position of my aces, K♠ and I have a possible source of tricks. Not happy with some of the responses I might get over X either. RHO opened in 3rd seat and I'll try describe my hand as good as I can.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:56

Double for me. I wouldn't consider anything else. I hate to wrong side NT with marginal strength and takeout shape.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 06:58

Easy 1NT here. Accurate shape/strength description, a support for hearts if pard transfers, source of tricks in diamonds, which is also a convenient escape suit if they dbl.

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Posted 2009-December-30, 10:33

Double.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 10:41

I think double is so much better than 1NT here that 1NT wouldn't cross my mind. 1NT describes your hand better, but double is much more likely to work better, and that is way more important.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 10:54

1N would cross my mind, but only accompanied by a horrified shudder. Double seems clear...too much to pass, and the thought of bidding 2♦ makes 1N seem almost palatable.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 10:59

This hand doesn't pass the boundary X/1NT.
But if S-K10x? Or H-Axx? Or D-AQJxx?
Tipped to 1NT then?
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Posted 2009-December-30, 12:13

Hi,

2D, but I dont mind 1NT, ... having read the reaction after some thought
about 2D / 1NT, I feel I have felt the samé, after I heard serious suggestion
for making a t/o X with the hand.

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Posted 2009-December-30, 13:54

Would double, but I don't hate 1NT. I do hate 2♦.
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Posted 2009-December-30, 18:43

agree with mike
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Posted 2009-December-31, 03:41

Double. Happy new year.
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Posted 2009-December-31, 04:37

P_Marlowe, on Dec 30 2009, 01:13 PM, said:

Hi,

2D, but I dont mind 1NT


Hi there.

Ok yesterday noon I posted the very same question at Croatian bridge association forum and get very different answers.

X - 2
1NT - 13
2D - 7

Like we are not playing the same game.

If you ask me it is not very clear what to bid. Or far from clear cut at least. With 1 NT you describe best the shape. Unfortunately not very good stopper. I do not like X because no HP in xxx clubs but I agree as well this describe the shape but w/o stopper. And I would prefer in the rest of the suits better shape from 353, at least 344 or even 4 hearts. For 2D you are short for a card and will have problem to find possible heart fit.

I was thinking which bid can reduce the damage. Any bid can get you in trouble. None can tell what can be the cheapest contract if partner have nothing. Very probably you will run from 1NT double in 2D even not more secure. If partner have something he will not pass that we can miss the game.

If you expect that you will be overbided with 2S your 2D bid helps partner to bid 3D to fight for a contract.

I bided 2D. I do not say it is good, but at the moment seemed the best to me.

After all, I want to stress the very big differnce in opinions from this one and our local bridge forum.
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Posted 2009-December-31, 04:43

Rev Dino, on Dec 31 2009, 05:37 AM, said:

Like we are not playing the same game.

Hi,

I think there is a difference, if it comes to making 1NT overcalls, I would say,
Europeans, make lighter 1NT overcalls than players from North America, and
the BBF is heavily dominated by players from North America.
The consequence of making heavier 1 NT overcalls is of course, that players
from North America are more in favour of making a T/O with bal. hands, ...,
of course of shape double is a italian style things, so my logic is not 100% clean,
but hey, who said, that arguments need to be consistent.

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Posted 2009-December-31, 05:21

One more thing for everybody: any difference if VUL or not?
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