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Big fit You're South

Poll: You bid...? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

You bid...?

  1. 3C (5 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  2. 3H (13 votes [56.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.52%

  3. 4C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Other (5 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

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#1 User is offline   kayin801 

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Posted 2010-January-07, 11:03

Scoring: MP

1-1-X-P
2-P-?

1: 16+ art
X: Usually 5-7, but could be GF if no better bid
2: nat 5+ suit, f1rd


Go high or go low? 3C would be NF, 3H would be a splinter, 4C was undiscussed but is presumably better than 3C. If it makes any difference, the 1C bidder might bid a slightly offshape NT here with heart stoppers, so you can presume they are unbalanced or stopperless. It's extremely rare that X isn't 5-7 at this low a level unless responder is perfect t/o shape.

Edit: quick statement clarification in description. Also, this is from an outside source, in case it seems familiar, but I'm interested in what other precision pairs would do in this situation.
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Posted 2010-January-07, 11:39

5-fit for partner's C. 5x diamonds side when partner didn't express S-interest. A minor rebid, here 2C, may be much stronger but going slow with minor suit(s).
I have H-single to allay H-losers fear and can show that immediately. 3H. Go minimum from now on.
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Posted 2010-January-07, 14:30

So what would 3 show? A fit jump would be nice to have...

BTW, doesn't "forcing 1 round" usually mean that opener promises another bid? If so, 3 cannot be non-forcing.

If I don't have a fit jump available I'll take the splinter...
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Posted 2010-January-08, 03:30

I'll splinter, partner probably has length (opps bid only 1 and didn't support) so it's important that he can evaluate his hand.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 04:53

I'd splinter if partner won't take me as the exceptional GF hand by doing so.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 05:05

3H
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Posted 2010-January-08, 05:57

5C
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Posted 2010-January-08, 09:24

hmm.. 4 seems just about right, unless there's a risk pard takes this as some GF variant, in which case 5 is more appropriate.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 14:42

I bid what I think we can make. 5. (i.e. it maybe a 3 or 5 hand).
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Posted 2010-January-11, 20:18

5 for me -- the lack of controls makes me squeamish about the tempting 3.

Unless LHO withheld significant support, it seems like pard has 4+ and will need a few ruffs in dummy...
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