[rogerclee]

w/r imps

void AKT9xx AKQ8xx Q

4S P ?

Partner is me, who opens 4M on an extremely wide range of hands (some 13s with 7 spades).

[Jlall]

I would pass and don't find it to be particularly close.

[Siegmund]

Dangerous to count more than 2 cover cards for AKQ. My four tricks and partner's six or so at these colors add up to... making four. At r/w there is some chance I would go on but the clubs are scary (if we were 1-5-6-1, I'd bid six at r/w, make some sort of inquiry at equal, and still pass at w/r.)

[Phil]

Pass is pretty obvious - at least to me.

[jonottawa]

I'm tempted to bid 6♦. If I bid 5♥ and then 6♦, it'll be hard for partner to pass when it's right.

Screw it, I bid 6♦. Especially if my partner is a girl.

[Fluffy]

I can see hands where 6♦ makes and 4♠ go down, so passing is not so obvious, we might lose all of partner's clubs don't you see? its not like when we have singleton trump and singleton club at all.

first position at this vulnerability, anything can be right.

I'd bid 5♦ if it was natural (there was an old thread where this auction happened in top bridge and 5♦ bidder had ♦KQJ10xxxxx if I remember correctly, but most of us took it as a cue) since I think it will be a better game.

Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better.

[jonottawa]

Fluffy, on Dec 25 2009, 01:18 AM, said:

Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better.

Obviously your math should be expected IMPs, not points.

But my math goes like this:

I get dealt a hand that is cold for slam opposite most balanced yarbs 3 or 4 times in my life. I just got dealt one. I bid slam.

[cherdanno]

jonottawa, on Dec 25 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Dec 25 2009, 01:18 AM, said:

Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better.

Obviously your math should be expected IMPs, not points.

But my math goes like this:

I get dealt a hand that is cold for slam opposite most balanced yarbs 3 or 4 times in my life. I just got dealt one. I bid slam.

Here is a secret that you might want to know. Partner is not balanced.

[jdonn]

Definitely pass. If I could show both suits I might consider slam in whichever partner has better support for (or might not), but just guessing a suit for slam is a total crapshoot. And one in which I believe it's clear the odds are stacked against you.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

You basically pay the price for your wideranging 4S bids.
Playing with my regular p, I would pass in a second, but
we have fairly tight agreements.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gnasher]

I'd bid 6♦, given the loose preempting style. The fact that 4♠ will go down fairly often means that I don't need great odds for 6♦.

[maggieb]

Maybe this is a stupid question - what is 5N? I've never bid GSF in my life before, but it can be useful in this auction.

[Jlall]

maggieb, on Dec 27 2009, 07:09 PM, said:

Maybe this is a stupid question - what is 5N? I've never bid GSF in my life before, but it can be useful in this auction.

obv GSF.

[Fluffy]

jonottawa, on Dec 25 2009, 07:16 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Dec 25 2009, 01:18 AM, said:

Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better.

Obviously your math should be expected IMPs, not points.

ugh? There is a bunch of clubs somewhere, and partner might have solid spades, there is no way to aproximate the contract at the other room. I'd stick with my point calculation thank you.

[jonottawa]

So give us the damn hand already.

[bluecalm]

Blackwood would be nice if we were 1-6-6-0 or 0-6-6-A♣ :-) especially if playing 5♣ as 0 keycards.
Not here though.

[whereagles]

jonottawa, on Dec 25 2009, 12:41 AM, said:

Screw it, I bid 6♦.  Especially if my partner is a girl. 

Be sure to make it or you'll look silly and ruin your chances gals don't like reckless bids even when they work, let alone when they don't lol.

[DWM]

jonottawa, on Dec 24 2009, 07:41 PM, said:

I'm tempted to bid 6♦.  If I bid 5♥ and then 6♦, it'll be hard for partner to pass when it's right.

Screw it, I bid 6♦.  Especially if my partner is a girl. 

Its a clear cut 4NT if P is a girl got to get the NT bid in before the rules are forgotten. Should also say if one of the diamond X's is the 7, its all important.

[eyhung]

You know, after the recent "Why play in the Reisinger?" thread that eventually morphed into "Why are women not playing in high-level bridge?" I am wondering whether this thread is exhibit A for the prosecution. I do have a sense of humor, but I don't quite see the benefit of a locker-room-mentality environment. Am I being too sensitive here?

[DWM]

Sorry if you took offence, I merery mentioned an ongoing joke that I have seen quoted in several high quality bridge books. Although I have discussed bridge in the locker room I cannot remember if we have discussed the ability of females to play in NT.