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New tourney default - Block Kibs? Should kibs be blocked by default?

Poll: You create a Tournament/TG. Should kibbitzing be blocked by default? (50 member(s) have cast votes)

You create a Tournament/TG. Should kibbitzing be blocked by default?

  1. strong yes (9 votes [18.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.00%

  2. mild yes (3 votes [6.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

  3. don't care (7 votes [14.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.00%

  4. mild no (9 votes [18.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.00%

  5. strong no (22 votes [44.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.00%

  6. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   uday 

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Posted 2009-December-17, 17:19

This applies to the default. A TD is free to override this during creation or after creation.

I'm thinking that a default of 'no kibs' would help keep out some of the self-speccers....

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Posted 2009-December-18, 08:42

;)

Uday

What difference would there be other than having to actively tick 'Allow Kibs' rather than having to tick 'Disallow Kibs'

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Posted 2009-December-18, 09:36

Difference: If a TD does not notice, Kibs would be blocked by default. That is, Kibbing would be an active choice by the TD.
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Posted 2009-December-18, 10:36

uday, on Dec 18 2009, 12:19 AM, said:

This applies to the default. A TD is free to override this during creation or after creation.

I'm thinking that a default of 'no kibs' would help keep out some of the self-speccers....

U

Active scanning/searching for cheaters and banning them is far better.

I know a certain yellow that will not enter a tournament if kibs are blocked.

this is punishing the people that want to kib without cheating.

And them cheaters will find another place to do their thing, start their own table in main or host their own tournaments and continue.

Just try and catch em , when you do, let them in again after a year and look at their behaviour once they are back
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Posted 2009-December-20, 06:01

Any default setting which act as a deterrent to cheating/bad behaviour should be seen as a good thing
Like re-setting the default visibility options on BBO FDCC :)

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Posted 2009-December-20, 17:47

TG = Strong No.

Tournaments = Don't Care (I don't play in many)
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Posted 2009-December-28, 17:55

What's the default when creating a new tournament is not of much importance - one can click another radio button easily.

What I am more worried about, is the fact that so many tournaments do not allow kibitzers. I know the problem - cheaters. But cheating can be done in more ways than by kibitzers.

For me, as a player, I dislike not being able to look at what happens in some tournament - I like walking around and have fun.

So my advice is to allow kibitzers always, except for money tournaments.
Then perhaps it is better to have "kibs allowed" the default, so that TD's won't forget to click that option :) .
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Posted 2009-December-29, 15:23

Although there are many ways to cheat other than using kibbitzers, there isn't much the tournament operator can do about most of them. Kibbitzing, on the other hand, is easily controlled, and many tournament organizers have chosen to take what little action they can.

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Posted 2010-January-02, 11:08

I would love to see the option to either allow, or disallow, specific kibs.........
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Posted 2010-January-02, 11:25

h2osmom, on Jan 2 2010, 06:08 PM, said:

I would love to see the option to either allow,  or disallow,  specific kibs.........

I believe that ACBL has this option, but it would be great if all tourneys had the default that "No Enemies" and "Exclude Custom List" refered to both players and kibs
Or at least allow directors to boot specific kibs, I am always suspicious of zzz12345 kibbers. It seemed like a good idea to allow genuine new visitors to have a look around before registering, but this is open to abuse/misuse
We have no way of knowing how common self-kibbing actually is, so paranoia prevails

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