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Posted 2009-December-28, 21:24

as dealer, all white, playing IMP pairs, you hold
♠QJT85
♥6532
♦J32
♣7

The auction proceeds

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P  2♥ P  4♥
?

Can you resist? Do you resist? :lol:
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Posted 2009-December-28, 21:31

yes i can, yes i do
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Posted 2009-December-28, 21:34

I want to pass, so I pass.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 22:05

lol
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Posted 2009-December-28, 22:15

pooltuna, on Dec 28 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

as dealer, all white, playing IMP pairs, you hold
♠QJT85
♥6532
♦J32
♣7

The auction proceeds

W  N  E  S
P  2♥ P  4♥
?

Can you resist? Do you resist? :lol:

resist what? With a partner who seems likely to be void in hearts and yet unable to bid over 1♥? I don't usually use lol....but....lol
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Posted 2009-December-28, 22:32

mikeh, on Dec 28 2009, 09:15 PM, said:

resist what? With a partner who seems likely to be void in hearts and yet unable to bid over 1♥? I don't usually use lol....but....lol

If it makes any difference, its over 2♥ not 1♥
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Posted 2009-December-28, 22:53

pooltuna, on Dec 28 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

as dealer, all white, playing IMP pairs, you hold ♠ QJT85 ♥6532 ♦J32 ♣7
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P  2♥ P  4♥
??
Can you resist? Do you resist?  :lol:
It's tempting to master-mind but you should probably resist. When you bid 4♠, on a bad day, it is doubled and dummy is
♠xx ♥K ♦Kxxxx ♣KQxxx. Opponents take ten tricks (♠AK, ♥AQJT, ♣A, ♦AQ, and a ♦ ruff) and retire to the Bahamas :( Partner pleads justifiable homicide, citing this thread as evidence :(
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Posted 2009-December-28, 23:09

I felt a slight temptation to open 1♠ as dealer, but even if opps had been vul I think I could have resisted.

There certainly isn't any other temptation lurking anywhere on this deal.
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Posted 2009-December-28, 23:14

What am I supposed to be thinking about? It's partner's lead.
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Posted 2009-December-29, 01:02

I think that anyone who considers anything but a PASS , has a serious problem with his attitude to the game.
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Posted 2009-December-29, 03:25

mich-b, on Dec 29 2009, 02:02 AM, said:

I think that anyone who considers anything but a PASS , has a serious problem with his attitude to the game.

Indeed, provided you pass in tempo, if partner has anything useful he'll double with his heart void.

I'd already opened 2♠ on this hand :lol:
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Posted 2009-December-29, 06:04

No. I give in and suggest that we play a method that allows us to open these hands. As this would involve a move to the Antipodes, partner presumably says no.
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Posted 2009-December-29, 08:50

pooltuna, on Dec 28 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

as dealer, all white, playing IMP pairs, you hold
♠QJT85
♥6532
♦J32
♣7

The auction proceeds

W  N  E  S
P  2♥ P  4♥
?

Can you resist? Do you resist?  :)

hand result

Yes bidding 4♠ is a high variance call that is likely to get you severely punished. Any tenaces your side has are in partner's hand and likely to be precarious. Nevertheless I was irritated to be holding such a crappy hand in a QUICK auction. Clearly partner has minimal values as he could not act over 2♥ yet RHO only bid 4♥ with clearly next to no thought so slam possibilities were not even considered. As an experiement I ventured 4♠ as I figured I had a 420+ point cushion. So when can it be right to try this in a real game? I suggest that if you are playing Justin's team in a short match say 8 boards you try it against him on the first hand(for whatever psychological advantage you can wrest out of him :) ) or if you know you are down towards the end you could take a shot. :)
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Posted 2009-December-29, 09:08

The 4♥ bid is often referred to as a transfer to 4♠, but there have to be some limits. This hand is certainly beyond the limit.

Referring to 4♠ as a high-variance call is certainly kind. And on this layout, it might work. What was the table result? Did you make 8 or 9 tricks?
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Posted 2009-December-29, 09:13

pooltuna, on Dec 29 2009, 09:50 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Dec 28 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

as dealer, all white, playing IMP pairs, you hold
♠QJT85
♥6532
♦J32
♣7

The auction proceeds

W  N  E  S
P  2♥ P  4♥
?

Can you resist? Do you resist?  :)

hand result

Yes bidding 4♠ is a high variance call that is likely to get you severely punished. Any tenaces your side has are in partner's hand and likely to be precarious. Nevertheless I was irritated to be holding such a crappy hand in a QUICK auction. Clearly partner has minimal values as he could not act over 2♥ yet RHO only bid 4♥ with clearly next to no thought so slam possibilities were not even considered. As an experiement I ventured 4♠ as I figured I had a 420+ point cushion. So when can it be right to try this in a real game? I suggest that if you are playing Justin's team in a short match say 8 boards you try it against him on the first hand(for whatever psychological advantage you can wrest out of him :) ) or if you know you are down towards the end you could take a shot. :)

LOL.

The only thing high variance about this hand is partner's failure to act over 2♥.
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Posted 2009-December-29, 09:13

ArtK78, on Dec 29 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

The 4♥ bid is often referred to as a transfer to 4♠, but there have to be some limits. This hand is certainly beyond the limit.

Referring to 4♠ as a high-variance call is certainly kind. And on this layout, it might work. What was the table result? Did you make 8 or 9 tricks?

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Posted 2009-December-29, 10:21

I know I want to what? Laugh at this post?

Now that I see the hand, I know I want to get a new partner!
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Posted 2009-December-29, 10:29

Expert68? you should know better!!
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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